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Tesla Supercharger network in Ireland

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    #1292
    mfceiling
    Registered Users Posts: 12,816 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119444586#Comment_119444586

    I would have thought that getting in ahead of the game now would be more beneficial going forward.

    Applegreen obviously are making money at present from EV drivers stopping to charge. I know I spend a minimum of a tenner in store in Castlebellingham and Birdhill when I'm out and about.

    Throw in banks of chargers with good food, good coffee, clean toilets and maybe decent WiFi and you've a captive audience now and certainly in the future.



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    #1293
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 7,935 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119447607#Comment_119447607

    They did the same in the UK, Applegreen bought the Welcome Break chain of service stations and have been very difficult when allowing charging partners to extend their networks.



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    #1294
    AndyBoBandy
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    They need to sh1t or get off the pot, and it's scandalous that they are allowed hold up the installation of critical transport infrastructure because 'they might want to do it themselves' in the future...

    Ireland really is such a mess, and is light years behind the curve, and will remain so for the foreseeable future... EV sales doubling year on year, chargers increasing at a rate of about 0.1 per year.....


    I was at Eindhoven Supercharger last week (a random hotel next to a motorway) and there were 24 Tesla Superchargers (open to all cars with CCS plugs), 2 of those 350kW units that they have in Mayfield (didn't see what plugs they had, but guessing 1 each of CHAdeMO & CCS), a 50kW triple head unit, and about 20 AC sockets...... and there's probably 50 sites like or similar to that in Holland, a country about 60% the size of Ireland...

    There were more EV charging spaces than non EV charging spaces in the carpark FFS!!!

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    #1295
    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    It's the problem of these exclusive rights grants. The UK had a similar problem with Ecotricity until recently.

    If we got widespread Norway/Holland etc level of SuC coverage but some sites were open to non Tesla users I think that's a price worth paying.



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    #1296
    AndyBoBandy
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I think that'll be the only saviour of EV charging in Ireland.... Tesla expanding hugely, and opening the network....

    And given where Tesla are installing all their sites here now (not at Motorway service areas), it'll hopefully kill off the likes of Applegreen (or seriously dent their traffic volumes).... They've made their bed etc....


    Ironically enough of the 11 SuperChargers I used traversing Europe over the last 3 weeks, only 1 of them was located at a petrol station... and even at that, it wasn't really a motorway services, just a small petrol station attached to a larger restaurant complex/rest area in Lohne, Germany



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    #1297
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,979 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    I agree with you Andy but we cannot compare and Island nation with zero transient traffic to continental Europe where long journeys require essential en route charging.

    Tesla are making inroads, just not at the pace we'd like, I'd much rather a Sligo SuC versus Cashel

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    #1298
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 65,322 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119448867#Comment_119448867

    Not just that but the vast majority of EV owners in Ireland - even in the metropolitan Dublin area - has their own drive way with cheap home charging. In continental Europe that's most often not the case, so people depend on public fast charging a lot more. The business model for providing public charging and making a profit on it, isn't really here yet



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    #1299
    reni10
    Registered Users Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭reni10


    I really cannot understand why they could not find a suitable site anywhere along the whole length of the M9 motorway!

    I have suggested and sent possible sites numerous times but nothing ever back from Tesla and absolutely no sign of any superchargers along what has to be the worst served motorway not only for superchargers but ANY EV chargers in the whole of Ireland!



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    #1300
    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Yes I agree. M9 and/or M11 really need a supercharger.

    If they added M9,M11 and then N5/somewhere up to sligo/carrick/NE direction that would be the country covered.



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    #1301
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users Posts: 9,063 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119445208#Comment_119445208

    Applegreen and this licencee are one and the same in my books. If they're happy to take his licencee money they can be just as happy to be associated with him



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    #1302
    AndyBoBandy
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119449911#Comment_119449911

    He did submit planing for an updated site layout with provision for chargers, so hopefully its a DC unit(s)


    Waterford is desperate, and a SuC on the M9 (south of Carlow) would be bloody awesome!!!



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    #1303
    arestifamiliar
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭arestifamiliar


    slightly off topic, but interesting numbers on chargers per land size in EU , we aren't the worst, but compared to Netherlands ....

    https://cleantechnica.com/2022/07/13/half-of-eu-electric-car-chargers-in-just-two-countries/



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    #1304
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 65,322 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    LOL

    Netherlands are 4% of the EU population and have 29% of the charge points (800%)

    Sweden has 2% of the EU population and have 8% of the charge points (400%)

    Germany are 19% of the EU population and have 19% of the charge points (so only average 100%)

    Ireland has a bit over 1% of the EU population and a bit under 1% of the charge points, so below par but many other countries are even worse and this number is nothing to write home about. Ireland have almost 10 times the population of Luxembourg, yet fewer charge points



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    #1305
    markpb
    Registered Users Posts: 9,294 ✭✭✭markpb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119448966#Comment_119448966

    There are huge numbers of terrace houses in the DCC area with no off-street parking.



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    #1306
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 65,322 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119450973#Comment_119450973

    Did I state otherwise? My point was just that the difference between the countries is that in Ireland the majority of EV owners have a driveway. In the Netherlands only a minority have a driveway. So more need for public charging over there.



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    #1307
    mfceiling
    Registered Users Posts: 12,816 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


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    Just 46 stalls at a random shopping centre.



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    #1308
    dsandson
    Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭dsandson


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119452151#Comment_119452151

    I dont think they're all superchargers - some are the urban chargers, 50-75kW I think - I cant recall the name. i haven't seen them installed anywhere this side of the pond. Nice setup, some value in that car park too!



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    #1309
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users Posts: 9,063 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119450062#Comment_119450062

    I will believe it when I see it, unless I'm mistaken the fact he had to include the chargers in planning permission means he will have more than 2 points, I think ecars are unlikely to be the provider in any case



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    #1310
    AndyBoBandy
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    The utter fcuking stupidity of some people……

    Athenry SuC;

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    #1311
    crisco10
    Registered Users Posts: 6,197 ✭✭✭crisco10


    Am I being thick? I'm looking at seeing if I can access SuC in France, and have downloaded the Tesla App but all I can see are areas for the various models, and2 generic merchandise.


    Where in the app is the "charging" bit???


    I've followed the (frustratingly simple) instructions here.

    https://www.tesla.com/support/non-tesla-supercharging


    And googling doesn't seem to reveal an answer. Ughhhhh



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    #1312
    markpb
    Registered Users Posts: 9,294 ✭✭✭markpb


    I think you need to have a French billing address on your Tesla account to get access to the SuC as a non-Tesla owner. Some weird restriction of the pilot.



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    #1313
    Redfox25
    Registered Users Posts: 1,547 ✭✭✭Redfox25


    Look up a hotel in France, use that as your home address when signing up for the SC network in France.

    Should work.



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    #1314
    wassie
    Registered Users Posts: 3,521 ✭✭✭wassie


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119460422#Comment_119460422

    Going by the number plate

    ....." Aye m'right thanks Jock"



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    #1315
    crisco10
    Registered Users Posts: 6,197 ✭✭✭crisco10


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119460886#Comment_119460886


    I did that, I added the address of a family home in France to my profile on the app. Although the address seemed optional. Also used it for billing address for my curve card.

    I did use an Irish phone number but *shrugs*.

    I might just delete my account and start again



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    #1316
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 65,322 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119461242#Comment_119461242

    I haven't tried it (I have a real Tesla account), but you might need a French mobile number for 2FA (there are services for that online) and you might need to use a VPN while you are setting up your French account so that the website thinks you are in France.



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    #1317
    kanuseeme
    Registered Users Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭kanuseeme


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119460422#Comment_119460422

    I remember it cost 1.5 million, I looked it up on maps at the time and thought there was not enough parking around the hotel, a wedding plus a full hotel = a lot of cars, I knew there was a good chance it would be iced, etc, never ever thought a camper van.

    https://www.webdoctor.ie/online-prescriptions/#:~:text=Through%20an%20online%20medical%20questionnaire%2C%20face%2Dto%2Dface%20consultation,to%20booking%20a%20video%20consultation. not affiliated, just being helpful.



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    #1318
    crisco10
    Registered Users Posts: 6,197 ✭✭✭crisco10


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119461342#Comment_119461342


    i haven’t tried the phone number, although I do have one I could use.

    no need for vpn, in France en ce moment!


    Edit; got sorted. Just deleted account and started again and registered it with everything French

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    #1319
    innrain
    Registered Users Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭innrain


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119461698#Comment_119461698

    That's not an excuse. Shoud they have been disabled spaces would they still parked there? There is need for education to understand the disruption they create. I was just reading that the Bavarian police got involved in such a project where they raise awareness, followed I imagine by enforcement.

    https://www.teslarati.com/police-germany-photoshop-helicopter-tesla-supercharger/




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    #1320
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,979 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119460422#Comment_119460422

    Report it to Tesla, they do take examples like this seriously, apart from the blocking it’s also breaking the law, that’s an absolute joke, I’d really let the Hotel know about it, Google reviews/Twitter etc

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    #1321
    jusmeig
    Registered Users Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭jusmeig


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119460422#Comment_119460422

    Deflate the tires...go all vigilante on it. Incredibly annoying that.



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