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Fall of the Catholic Church

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    #1922
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,805 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119264544#Comment_119264544

    All of whom are democratically elected. Even the current President is calling himself a catholic (he’s not) not to mention the speaker of the house (she’s not either).

    Who the hell are you to tell people who say they are Catholics that they're not really Catholics...?

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #1923
    growleaves
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119408310#Comment_119408310

    ..



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    #1924
    Hotblack Desiato
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    ??

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #1925
    lmao10
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119408310#Comment_119408310

    "Aoooookay.



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    #1926
    growleaves
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119409202#Comment_119409202

    Sorry. I wrote a post to you, then realised it didn't make sense and so I just edited/deleted it.



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    #1927
    Hotblack Desiato
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119409293#Comment_119409293

    That never stopped anyone else 😁

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #1928
    Hotblack Desiato
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    https://www.independent.ie/regionals/wicklow/news/wicklow-priest-im-an-old-man-trying-to-do-a-young-mans-job-how-long-can-that-last-41901021.html


    Wicklow priest: ‘I’m an old man trying to do a young man’s job. How long can that last?’

    Fr Michael Murphy is now in charge of four local parishes and fears he cannot keep up the work load and travel as he approaches 70

    Amid the recent streamlining of the Dublin diocese by Archbishop Desmond Farrell, one newly relocated Wicklow priest is at risk of being crushed under the weight of his new responsibilities.

    Fr Michael Murphy was transferred to the Avoca Parish last month, as part of the Archbishop’s ‘Building Hope’ initiative. The father will take up ministerial duties, with immediate effect, in not one but four different south Wicklow parishes.

    Many have left - the next phase of decline is going to be far from easy for those who stick around.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #1929
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119459538#Comment_119459538

    I don't think any of this is news - priests have been taking on more than one parish for a while now and there are not that many younger priests coming though training.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    #1930
    Hotblack Desiato
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    Two is common but I've not heard of four.

    The demand for their services is obviously a fraction of what it was, apart from funerals, but even there secular services are becoming more and more common. A big change in recent years is that church marriages (of all types) now make up less than half of all marriage ceremonies.

    But 89% of primary schools are still controlled by the Catholic Church, and most of the remainder are Church of Ireland! Does not compute.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #1931
    Igotadose
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119462663#Comment_119462663

    Unless... You know.. The Criminal Enterprise known as the RCC... Are lying.



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    #1932
    Hotblack Desiato
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    Well of course they are lying about their main business proposition, and their abuse coverup, but what specifically are you saying they're lying about?

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #1933
    Igotadose
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119463035#Comment_119463035

    That they need so many priests. That there's more demand than they can handle. Closing a few lightly attended parishes would sort this out.



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    #1934
    donaghs
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119459689#Comment_119459689

    In some places "laity" "deacons" seem lined up to be fill the gaps. If the followers are happy with this it should keep things going for another while. Albeit an ever continuing decline.

    But You can also never rule out religious revivals either. e.g. in 1970s you had the Born-Again/evangelical movement taking off the US, the Mullahs in Iran (the Islamic world in general really) and the BJP types in India, etc.

    Recent exposure of scandals in the Mormon Church (lds) shows that “protecting the institution” seems to be the norm in many places : https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/10/mormon-church-child-sexual-abuse/


    including Irish swimming back in the day.



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    #1935
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119463042#Comment_119463042

    To be fair, that puts a lot of work and travel on priests in rural areas. City parishes, definitely could be merged though.


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119463161#Comment_119463161

    I honestly don't see any rivial unless there's a massive change in fortunes. And by massive, it would want to be serious climate change, worldwide economic meltdown far beyond what happened in 2009 and/or communication break down.

    We live in an era where people have everything - including information - pretty much with the click of a button. As long as that's the case, very little will change.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    #1936
    Hotblack Desiato
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119463042#Comment_119463042

    The four parishes today probably have about the same number of masses each weekend as one of them did in the 80s.

    Most funerals are still church funerals though, but even that is changing.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #1937
    Igotadose
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119465761#Comment_119465761

    The funeral thing is grotesque. Such a death cult. People attend funerals for others they've never met, for the craic and the snacks at the wake. Not for the dreary funeral masses (having attended them a couple times, never again.)



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    #1938
    donaghs
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119466792#Comment_119466792

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion but funeral rituals are common in most cultures, and seem to serve a purpose of honouring the person, allowing loved ones to grieve and hopefully then help them move on with their lives. secular ceremonies tend to have a lot of similarities with religious ones, probably due to our shared human nature.

    what else would you suggest? Have the body cremated at a secret location and never mention the dead person again?



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    #1939
    Hotblack Desiato
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    A secular funeral where nobody is pretending eternal happy fun times are going to happen, the focus is on the deceased and their life not a supposed god.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #1940
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users Posts: 33,383 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    I think non-relgious ceremonies are on the rise and people expressing a desire to be cremated rather than buried. Especially when the cost of a new grave plot is taken into account.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    #1941
    TheValeyard
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119467141#Comment_119467141

    All depends on the person's wishes. Been to crematations, Catholic and Protestant, Pentecostal funerals, Jewish burial and Muslim funeral rites. They all have their merits and traditions. Each their own.

    The one in Newlands is a nice building and you can really put your spin on the service and tailor it the way you want. Only thing I didnt like was when the coffin drops down to be taken away, wasnt expecting that, bit of a shock!!!

    All Eyes On Rafah



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