Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

Someone mentioned Ukrainian cars over here. What's the story with insurance of these cars. If one of these cars crashes into you can you claim on their insurance? I've come across a case where a motorcyclist was hit by a Ukrainian registered car. And it's an unbelievable clusterfuck.

I disagree with the last point. Grealish could have kept going and he'd be reelected.

The expulsion from FG is one of the reasons Murphy got elected.

They might face a media backlash but provided they don't go overboard would be reelected

So much for those who said the student accommodation being used by refugees was only temporary until the colleges reopened. Then of course we always had a shortage of student accommodation so it doesn't make any difference. Same as we always had health service issues so adding another 50,000 all of a sudden makes no difference, same with a lack of school places, we'll have no problem all of a sudden finding places for our new arrivals.

I can imagine parents ringing in shows in the autumn saying how they have no school places for their kids but guarantee no one will mention the elephant in the room.

No thank you very much I not like to work hard for 50 euro for week. Stay here for 203 per week for do nothing . I love the choice of menu handed me 3 times a day. Lovely peoples hear and very friendly and hand tings for free. Don’t blame me blame your govmenrt.

To anyone that thinks we should keep taking them in - should we take in the same amount as every country in the EU, or should we take in more, or less?

Not that I should expect an answer, as Leo hasn't yet produced a reply for that.

Years ago while I was in college I worked in b&b that only took people from the eastern health board. I worked out the owner of the place was making over a million a year from it and this was twenty years ago. It’s was only family’s/couples/women. They present themselves as homeless and get put in a b&b while on the housing list and still get full welfare. Men were sent to hosels.

There needs to be an investigation into who owns these. It’s a money spinner for them. The government have just expanded this to include anyone that claims to be Ukrainian.

We just need to make up our mind what we need to do for the wellbeing of Irish people, taxpayers and citizens and to hell with what anyone else thinks.

Think **** faint would actually be worse and I hate the present government

It doesn’t appear to have occurred to @Strumms that he’s already part of the group that nobody cares what they think 🤔

113 Ukranians have just moved into the student accommodation in Donegal so I thinks its fair to say they won't be going anywhere soon. Thats a lot of rooms gone in a small area. I'll be surprised if too many of that 3,000 get moved given theres nowhere for them to and there are more arriving every day.

the Russian sanctions will be next. Just watch. Neither side can afford to keep this nonsense up forever

Yup, that landlord is clearly going his own way, and devil take the hindmost. The Red Cross and local authorities will be stepping up their efforts, so we're told, and they will also be housing refugees under canvas in Gormanstown.

Ah, the daily "sure it's only the east of Ukraine that's in any kind of bother" post.

No, life is not pretty much "back to normal bar the eastern hotspots".

First, many millions are internally displaced and are being accommodated in western Ukraine.

But secondly, there have been many missile attacks on civilian targets, including those in "safe" "non-combat" areas. If your country was being illegally invaded, would you be happy moving your family from Dublin to Limerick, because Limerick is probably going to be safe?

How short people's memories are. It's literally only a couple of months since the 64km-long RuAF convoy was approaching Kyiv. They got as close as 30km from the centre of Kyiv and only aren't there now because of the fierce resistance they encountered combined with luck with the weather bogging down their main convoy.

• Odesa is on the Black Sea but nowhere near Donbas - repeatedly attacked with cruise missiles.
• Vinnytsia is in central Ukraine - attacked with rockets last month.
• Kremenchuk is also in central Ukraine, nowhere near a combat zone. A shopping mall attacked with missiles, during the day.
• Dnipropetrovsk: 13 civilians were killed by Russian strikes in the Dnipropetrovsk region in central Ukraine this week. Twelve of the victims were killed in strikes on the village of Marganets, on the other side of the Dnieper River from the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant

There are many more examples.

Finland and Sweden are now clamoring to join NATO. Why? Because they don't trust Russia to confine their expansion to the Donbas region (after they'd already annexed Crimea!). I think ordinary Ukrainian citizens, then, are perfectly justified in not hanging around in what boardsies deem to be "safe" areas.