Electric Picnic 2022 - Here we go again! - **No Ticket Sales / Requests **

Reminds me of the death rattle days of Oxegen

There was a time during the pandemic I made a comment that I was so starved for gigs that I’d even go see the 2 johnnies. I had the support of the posters here…it was a dark time.

So the replacement for othervoices was a stage sponsored by three in 2019 - is that stage still there this year - haven't seen it mentioned at all?

Made me laugh.

They say there is a market niche for everyone, but i’d be very interested in an IQ survey of the 2 Jonnies- gig attendees.

In centuries to come the baffling popularity and continued success of the 2 Johnnies will be dissected by historians. They'll look at these times in the same bewildered way we look at the Salem witch trials. It will ultimately be a shocking indictment of the human race in the early 21st century. 

I haven't worked out the percentage of Irish acts that I saw at ATN but it was a fair few to supplement the headliners. The 3 examples that you gave above were included plus Gilla Band, CMAT, Melts, Enola Gay, Thumper, Jessie Buckley and Bernard Butler, Soda Blonde, Pillow Queens and probably more that I can't think of off the top of my head. Most of those could have been added without breaking the bank so I guess FR have made a conscious decision on the direction they want to go and the target demographic. I'd be tempted to attend to see how Fontaines DC do as a headliner but I don't think there's enough in there to get me to brave the masses of teenagers throughout the weekend. On the otherside, I've already got a few people at work putting dibbs on my tickets so they're pleasing some people... so it's just a question of taste I suppose.

On a side note, I'd would imagine that a teen/ early 20s punter spends far less over the weekend. I know for my group, the ticket price is probably the minimal part of the expense for the weekend when we're ploughing through every food stall in the place and keeping the bars busy.

What do you reckon the Arctic Monkeys' fee is? Did they, Tame Impala and Megan Thee Stallion break the bank? With 70k tickets sold I wouldn't like to think it.

I had to take time to reflect after that announcement. I first went to EP in 2005 and haven't missed one since. In that time there has not been a major announcement as woeful as this afternoon's, singularly the worst (and blandest) collection of acts this festival has ever unleashed on us. I think that Jerry Fish will add a few decent ones, particularly if his increased capacity allows the likes of Something Happens, Ash or SLF. However we're now looking at the Picnic's greatest capacity by far (and thus greatest budget) with possibly its worst lineup of all. The proportion of good acts to bland is heavily skewered towards the latter and I don't remember it being so unbalanced before? In the worst years of Oxegen they had acts like The Who, Blur, REM, The Cure Daft Punk, Eminem, Strokes, etc. There is no one of that pedigree at EP 2022. For good reason I'll ignore the comparison between undercards.

There are plenty of acts I'll enjoy there and I'll have a blast and it'll be great to share pints with you guys. It won't be my last EP as there'll be a year in the future when the stars align again and some unmissable act(s) reappear. There's too much good stuff at the Picnic to write it off but I'll give it a miss next year and not bother with the loyalty booking. ATN doesn't greatly appeal so I'll head to Pohoda in Slovakia again (€109 tickets - Bad Seeds, Libertines, Slowthai and others this year) and spend my cash at the Galway Arts Fest and some outdoor gigs in Dublin or elsewhere. These Charming Men may be missing an audience in 2023.

I'll refer to my post a few pages back. The year New Order played there were 9 acts i wanted to see all weekend. 6 of them clashed.

Never thought i'd see you make a post like this Seathrun (not having a pop but you usually manage to put some positive spin on it no matter how **** i personally think something might be!) It must definitely be truly desperate times.

It's like they're not even trying anymore. Glastonbury might be all things to all men but it generally keeps everyone happy across the genres and age groups. EP are just taking the piss it seems. We don't even get cake, it's more a case of "Let them eat ****". And be glad of it.

So what stages have yet to announce, Fishtown, Hazelwood, Mind & Body (the new B&S area) will they get a line up comparable with previous Body & Soul ones, Red Bull Stage and various other side shows.

For the 6 headline acts in 2022 the collective fees would be in the €2 -€4m range.

As it was disclosed back in 2013 due to the court case the killers were paid €500,000 to be a headliner in 2012.

Headliner fees have only increased since then.

artics fee would be in €750k - €1m range

Out for the day. Just saw that. Sweet divine Jesus. My eyes are bleeding.

I agree. Glasto manages to get it right - loads of unappealing pop balanced out with young indie acts and the very best of older artists. The balance has definitely tipped towards the bland this year and I can't see that ever shifting back. That doesn't mean there won't be great lineups in the future, but they'll be far rarer.