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Anxiety and depression thread (Please read OP)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,737 ✭✭✭nothing


    Finally rang the gp this morning and they squeezed me in this afternoon. There's a new doctor, he's brilliant, really listened and understood, increased one of my meds and will see me again in a few weeks to see how I'm getting on. He'd done 6 months at the public mental health clinic I attend, and he's very familiar with the failings within that system. Still feel rubbish, but at least it's a move in the right direction.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,624 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Well done!. Huge step to take, i'm glad the doc was receptive and understanding



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,737 ✭✭✭nothing


    I'm super lucky with my gp, and especially glad of them at times like this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,864 ✭✭✭statto25


    I am so miserable. All I want is to be alone while also wanting someone to comfort me, vicious circle. Not been this low now for over a year. Life is a load of bollocks really. Not looking for any advice, just want to tell someone in some form.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,624 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Home from work, hopeless and can't sleep.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,539 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Not sure if this was posted before, anyway it's worth posting again .... I think I've done this 3 times in the past hour.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,083 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    part and parcel of my own disorder unfortunately, id like to think im getting better with it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,539 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    God, I'm in a mental panic today. Just a few things building up to remind me of my problems and trigger me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,376 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    If you can, write them down on paper. It can help enormously to take away their power.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,737 ✭✭✭nothing


    Increased meds have improved my overall mood, though still not quite right in myself, but it'll take time, have been here many times before.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,624 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Glad to hear you've had some respite, well done, it's bloody hard..

    As for me, things not been great. My partner and i had a row and neither one of copes well at all. She had very valid points so I've got some thinking to do.. On a twelve hour shift. In my small office..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,376 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    I think this heat is genuinely affecting people's mental health. My own included. Barely able to function, sleep gone to crap.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,624 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Anything that messes with sleep does upset everything else alright



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,539 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Yep, bad irregular sleep = hell the next day. Got to bed late last night and suffering now. It's like full on anxiety hangover. Can't think at all and no energy. And crankyness up to 11.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,539 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Valid points good! An awful lot of bullshit, lies and fake ness everywhere. It's good to have someone to clear the air.

    My partner always hitting me with the truth. I'm just too worn down and exhausted to deal with it. Could do with 2 years to take a career break, try something else and sort my **** out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,376 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Odd to say, but sometimes you need someone to hit with the hard truths. Brutal as that may be. Sometimes, fighting against those truths, or the 'nerves' they strike can sort of show you what you really care about, versus what you think you do.

    That said, if something is hitting you 'too' hard, maybe you do need some respite. Even a walk can help clear the mind. We all have different thresholds and our battery for each day can only hold so much energy.

    As for me, today I was off-kilter. I took a tablet yesterday, for a headache-one of those soluble ones that you dissolve in water. Well, those soluble ones, they often disagree with me (ever since secondary school, they just started to disagree with me). I should have just grabbed an easy to swallow pill, but my headache made me desperate (the heat and sweating so much brought this headache on). Today I paid for it. Stomach was sore all day. Had to take something else to alleviate it, and was just in a rotten mood all day.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,624 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Ah valid points, i mean it helped me regain some perspective but the fight or flight response was just exhausting to wrestle.

    @RabbleRouser2k sorry to hear you were unwell, hopefully you're not following with insomnia tonight?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,376 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Thanks. It's a temporary thing. My stomach has always been my Achilles heel. Sensitive to certain things, fine and dandy with others. It's feeling better. Anything with Peppermint helps.

    As for insomnia-not really. It's the heat. And some stuff needs to be done tonight. My internet's been acting up in this weather, meaning some things I needed to get done I couldn't do until about now.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,624 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Ah, good, there are thunder warnings for tomorrow so you might indeed have to get stuff done while you have the chance



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,539 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Should not have said "always" above. Partner very kind, and gives me the truth only when I'm being particularly unreasonable. Important to make note and then tackle your issues later when you have the energy to face them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭carzony


    Hi All,

    Well I took a huge step and got myself a new full time job.

    I start in 2 weeks time so that should at least get me out of the house more and keep my mind occupied.

    Today I had to travel to the new job for a quick induction, It was the furthest I've travelled in nearly a year. The funny thing is the anxiety of it all is only hitting me now. I don't respond well to change though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭laoisgem




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭BohsCeltic


    Best of luck in the new job. I think everyone gets nervous when they start somewhere new.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭One More Toy


    Nice to see you mate, long time. Hope all is well with you



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,539 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    I'd been reading this guy's posts on and off for years, but dropped away for years too.

    He writes very clearly and simply about things that cause and help with anxiety and depression.

    And he never comes across as too preachy.

    Check out the archives section to get to past posts.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,737 ✭✭✭nothing


    Last 2 or 3 days have started to feel... normal is the wrong word, maybe back to baseline describes it better. Managed to get out and be what passes for social for me. And had a call today about a potential part time job (well a ce scheme placement) - if the call had been a week ago or more, I'd have turned it down immediately. Have a week to think about it, it's a specific role that's being created for me, so it's nice knowing that I wasn't useless at it (had 2 stints in a similar position a few years ago). Not much thinking needed though, times suit me, it's only a few minutes walk, and I need some structure to my day.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,624 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Glad you've managed to find a neutral sort of baseline, that's a tough haul, long main it continue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,737 ✭✭✭nothing


    Thanks @Gremlinertia now if I can just stop overthinking so many other things that I'd like sorted out. Sigh.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,624 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Oh boy do i hear that, i'm attempting compassion based therapy and between the super critical voice in my mind and it's tendency to wander and ruminate i never get a bit of peace.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,376 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Ain't it funny how compassion for other people comes so easy to many of us, yet compassion for ourselves is in scant supply?



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,624 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    It's quite surreal, i'm possibly overly empathetic, and my inner critic's voice is one of the strongest things in my mind.. Even as i type this that part of me is roaring that this is, or will sound, stupid to everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,376 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Same. I'll try to be empathetic. Try to be optimistic for other people. But when it comes to me, and my own foibles, I'm the worst critic. I belabour everything. Everything I say, everything I do, every mistake. To the point where it goes from unhealthy to venomous. Molehills become mountains, and minor tasks feel like I've been told to build a castle and have it finished by tomorrow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,539 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    I think it's important to switch off.

    Really you mind is trying to keep up with the noise of the Internet/the System, trying for dopamine hits, etc etc etc etc and you're blaming yourself when you can't.

    I've just been on LinkedIn for work search purposes, and Facebook to get rid of some stuff, on work MS Teams to get stuff reviewed and I'm miserable after it all.

    And I've probably been confronted by 100 advertisements directly and indirectly in this time and self promotion bullshit telling me I'm inadequate and not good enough.

    It's like one big comparison circus.

    And one hyper competition.

    People are going to burnout bad and much much earlier from all this. So, be kind to yourself and don't forget that most of it is a circus.

    This is what I am trying to tell myself 😀



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭BohsCeltic


    All is good thanks. Hope everything is good on your end too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,376 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k



    Every now and then I find myself overwhelmed by life, honestly. Too much of it makes me feel like an impostor. Today and yesterday were just a slog to get through, tbqh. I found myself being a bit of a s**t tbh. A lot of it's coinciding with stuff that happened months ago. And then some more stuff happened today.

    I know most of it's in my head, but the worst thing is that I'm not in control of what I think. At times it feels like another external voice. Repeating the negative stuff I've heard my whole life.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,539 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Feeling really anxious at the moment.

    Lots of big problems I can't solve.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    i Live as peacefully as can be these days. But still the outsideworld intrudes with a great BANG. Or a niggly mouse... These days my health etc is at such a low ebb that i mostly ignore things but then get suddenly caught in the old habit it thinking we HAVE to respond and HAVE to react and reply. W We don't and sooner rather than later and if it is not a vital concern then "let time pass" is a mighty maxim,. We tend to think we HAVE to reply to email as soon as it comes in.. Let it wait a while.... tune out..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Bassfish


    First time posting here. Never felt the need before. Never had a mental health problem up to this year (age 38). Anxiety hit me like a ton of bricks in January this year and I've been battling it since. I'm on meds since February. Was hoping to taper off them this month but had quite bad spell recently so probably not the best time. I did CBT for a few months and found it great but it was was just too expensive to keep up.

    Work is a big trigger for me. I work in a pretty chaotic, high stress environment and most of the time I'm pretty chilled but it definitely builds up and boils over for me.

    My symptoms start in my stomach, cramps and flutters and feeling ill. Followed usually by intense dread and worry something awful is about to happen. I've gone 90 minutes without even being able to speak.

    I've found the only thing that helps in the moment is deep breathing. I've been doing the Wim Hof exercises and some other ones my therapist gave me. What really helps me though is physical activity, the more intense the better, which isn't easy for me as I'm quite overweight. Over the summer I've taken up sea swimming which works brilliantly. The shock of the cold water and the need to breath steadily knocks the anxiety right out of me and there's a euphoric feeling afterwards. My bouts of anxiety can be linked to alcohol too. The 'fear' after drinking turns on to full on anxiety so I've had to reign that in a lot.

    When this started I was focused on getting 'cured' and getting rid of it like an infection but I'm now realising it's probably something I will need to manage and monitor for the foreseeable like diabetes.

    Anyway, hope everyone here is doing OK and keeping the chin up👍



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,539 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Stay away from addictions if you have any problems in your life. They will make things much worse and take away options and time from your life.

    Addictions fills your head full of noise and instead of addressing any problems you have clearly, you'll spin around in the addiction and withdrawal.

    There are the obvious addictions. But even screen addiction, anger addiction, self deprecation, work, video game, negativity, social media ... addictions are insidious.

    If you can, find a quiet space away from your normal environment and just sit. Even better if you can find a quiet cat or dog for non judgemental company.

    The above is a note to self too !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Wonderful post...Propped up abed in the blissful silence here with a cat at my side who wakes now and then and reaches out a paw to stroke my arm..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭apache


    This system feels like I'm banging my head against a brick wall. The **** politics!

    Really tired of it all now....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    But you do not sound stupid ever! You are one of the wisest of people...maybe because of your humility,,,A rare quality. Thank you for it.

    Reminds me of TS Eliot .. " Be at peace with your thoughts and visions.." ( Murder in the Cathedral) If we find that peace...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,083 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ah its bullsh1t, it does very little in helping people at all, it even adds to their issues...



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,624 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    In to see psychologist in a few minutes and so many people have taken up space in my brain with minor crap it's going to be hard to be productive



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    My immediate thought was..what is the difference between a routine of self care that includes meds and addictions? One can slide into the other



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Struggling just now. My age is beginning to sap as it is bound to do.. I have just spent an hour dealing with official paperwork and forms ad am literally shaking/trembling with the effort. That is the ME drain... I know it well but things HAVE to be done or the money stops!..

    This is why we get misdiagnosed so often

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭laoisgem


    Has anyone any experience with a psychotic break/episode, don't know what to call it. I know we all have those dreams that we wake up the next morning, sometimes crying, feeling almost like they were real and you'd be, in my case like a bitch for the day because of this. This passing weekend I've experienced something I've never done before after having erratic sleep, it has taken me hours to piece together what is real, what has actually happened with what I've dreamed of and thought of. I'm afraid to say it to anyone irl in case they confirm it is actually psychotic 😪



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,737 ✭✭✭nothing


    So sorry to hear that laoisgem, wish I had some advice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,376 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    I've had some experience of that. Back when I was put on medication for the second time (still on it too) my brain and body needed time to adjust, and I had some very 'visceral' dreams-genuinely felt as real as I'm typing this. (I can still get those, from time to time- but experience taught me they aren't real).

    It was very strange-genuinely thought cousins had come to visit while I was in bed, and that they had come into my room and everything. Asked my parents about it, and they told me nobody had been here that day. Zilch.

    Months after I thought I had recovered from Covid (I hadn't, and still may have long term Covid effects), my brother asked me to check on an animal. He's a farmer, and I was helping him out because Covid restrictions meant he couldn't hire help (at the time, anyways). Well, I went out to check, and as sure as I'm standing here, I thought there was a dead calf. Like, I genuinely believed there was a dead calf, that the cow had had a stillborn calf. (Clearly envisioned it-similar to how I can see my computer screen right in front of me). Well, had to tell him that his animal had miscarried. Then when I was getting ready to go to bed, he told me the cow had just delivered, and she'd had a healthy calf. There was no dead calf. I haven't had those 'breaks' with reality since then - the ones where, in broad daylight, I hallucinate things. But that did freak me out a bit. Until additional post-Covid made me realise that it was gonna take a LONG time to recover from the virus. Didn't think it would be years tho.

    As you've stated, your sleep was erratic. That can genuinely mess with your mind. You may have experienced some kind of 'disassociation' with your mind or body. I doubt it's some kind of psychosis, since you're aware of it. Maybe to talk to your doctor or counsellor about it. I wouldn't be too worried about it, knowing sleep was erratic tells me this was your mind trying to 'compensate'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭laoisgem


    Thanks so much @RabbleRouser2k you've really put my mind at ease.



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