Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

Ah the daily nonsense that the hugely vast minority are correct, and it is a danger zone all over.

6.5 million entered the EU throughout the conflict, around half have returned, with up to 3 million still displaced around Europe. Out of a population of 44 million, that works out just over 41 million are in the country. We probably have the same ratio of people currently on holiday throughout Ireland and Europe.

Around 3 million in Europe includes e.g. UK, Norway, Switzerland etc.

So some very rough maths here, that means that Ireland has already taken in roughly 1.6% of them, and that number "Might" rise to 200,000, which would be almost 7% of the current amount which is ludicrous.

If all EU countries were to take in the same amount, that would mean (out of the ones that haven't yet returned) we would all be taking in 3.7% which is 111,000 but would also be grossly unfair, given that some countries are much more equipped to take more, and are closer so easier for them to return/makes more sense.

Remove the refugees that have gone to the non EU countries and that number drops again. Also, the 1.6% we have taken in will rise, as it will both when some go home and when more arrive here.

TL:DR,

Forget that we don't have resources, forget that we are losing money hand over fist handing it out to them for free and it not returning to the economy, forget that we don't have anywhere near the accommodation that is required and as a result our hospitality/tourism sector is losing out massively, so there is also no income.

Mathematically, we have already taken in our fair share, which may very quickly become 'more than' our fair share.

Businesses are opening back up daily, tens of thousands returning daily, and we have already well hit our fair quota of what could be expected of us, yet for some reason they are still arriving in their thousands.. WTF is going on? This cannot still be the EU emergency directive, how does it get halted? FFS, McDonalds and Nike have jobs waiting for them. Incentive to get off the dole.

I am not claiming it is a danger zone all over. Where did I say that? Don't put words in my mouth.

People are claiming daily that the only danger zones are in the east and/or the south-east. I'm pointing out that a) very recently, that wasn't the case - the main Russian convoy made it to within 30km of Kyiv. It's a war - circumstances change rapidly. And b) there are regular attacks - usually causing civilian casualties - in other regions, especially the south and central Ukraine, areas far away, distance-wise, from the Donbas region.

And that's not to mention the thousands being relocated to Russia against their will, including children. I've posted the links. Have a read.

There are millions of displaced Ukrainians within the country, too.

McDonalds and Nike's prime responsibility is to their shareholders. If they think they can operate and still make a profit in Ukraine, they will. Why wouldn't they.

I hope the students set up a tent city on campus as a protest. Not that RTÉ would bother covering it.

Who would pay me the free money and where would I get the free food and free accommodation?

Wonder if I rocked up to Citywest and claimed to be a “refugee” like the other 99.99% of refugee scammers would they give me bed and board for the week?

Tough, they have to find alternative accommodation

Just talking to a mate there. He's not the full shilling but been on the social housing list for over 8 years. He's been watching it like a hawk and about 6 months ago was down to 21 on the list and then down to 20 recently.

He went in today to see if there's any movement.

He's now been bumped up to the 400's 😂 Just like that.

Poor fucker.

Probably just a coincidence. Who knows 🙅

SF could be worse, but there's nothing better then politician's (current government) getting their comeuppance. Get them out and if SF are as bad atleast the next one's looking for votes will have to beg us/win us over.

Why should we have any sympathy for your "mate"? Sitting on his hole for the last 8 years waiting on a "free house" to be handed to him.

The resentment will grow and grow till it reaches a tipping point.

Currently it’s the economic migrants coming here for the free everything they can get their hands. Next few months it will be displaced college students who have lost their accommodation. Disappointed parents whose kids miss out on college places while Ukranian kids get them handed to them with full grants.

In the not so distant future, when people see loads of single female parent Ukranian families getting social housing handed to them before Irish people who have been waiting years for. That’s when I think people will say, enough is enough.

We are being taken for absolute fools by our government and the Ukrainians.

I don't follow trump here so don't see his shite posts. Only the quotes.

Nobody's looking for sympathy.

Just thought I'd point out how odd it was to go from 20 after 8 years to 400 on a housing list.

There must be something strange going on and I wondered does it have anything to do with what's going on here?

Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't 🙅

You forgot to tell them the so called anti Ukranian (blar blar blar) has come back with bag loads of money too , minted so he is because he didnt pay 50 per cent plus taxes in Ireland because he wasn't living in Ireland.

Thats right you pay tax somewhere else when you live somewhere else, its a hard concept for the small minded envious cretins to grasp. Its really funny how envious and obsessed some folks get with other posters.

Put on your reading specs and try again 'Mary'.