IRFU Transgender Women Policy Change

Not quite true. People in this thread have said that they shouldnt be accepted for who they are plus trans people have been misgendered and trans women referred to as males...

You need some lessons in statistics if you're going to draw conclusions from a sample size of 2.

Mis-gendering does not exist. Its like mis-aging someone. Either it is their age or its a mistake. Telling someone you are younger than you are, or falsifying what your age is in writing, doesn't change the reality that you were born at a particular time, on a particular date and that will be the case for all time.

Trans women are trans women. They are biological males to the core of their cells and there's not a procedure yet, short of magic, or an act of God that can change that. And as neither of those exist, they're out of luck.

Yes, people can experience gender dysphoria and feel like they were born in the wrong body and want to live their life in the body they identify with, rather than the one in which they were actually born and its a great thing that there is science and technology to support them in that. It gives people peace, relief and confidence and no one should be denied that.

But at the end of the day, the science is only changing their superficial selves, it doesn't offer them a natural female hormonal level. It cannot install in them a female reproductive system, or any other female gender characteristic like a skeleton developed to birth children.

Tran women and indeed trans men, ought be let live their lives how they please, just like the rest of us, without harassment or exploitation. But they are trans women and trans men. False appropriation of a biological status which they are not, is bogus and an act of delusion and denial which I believe only worsens mental health over time, not to mention the marginalisation of biological women in the process, by simply demanding that womanhood is whatever anyone says it is.

Time to draw a line under the falseness and the delusion.

Can we just deal with the issue at hand rather than lowering the thread to this sort of right v left nonsense please? I would consider myself left leaning politically and an advocate of LGBTIQ+ rights along with supporting many other socially liberal initiatives. But the idea of trans women participation with women in any sport is absurd. It devalues women's participation in sport and is downright dangerous in many disciplines. Women's participation in sport is greatly threatened by this sort of nonsense and your reductive stance on this in bringing it into some sort of left v right argument is a complete strawman. Thankfully you've stopped short of referring to us who see the logic in the IRFUs decision as Trumpian.

I read a poster on another rugby forum allegedly name them but the moderators banned the user and deleted the post.

Its worth noting that the players (supposedly) named weren't playing at AIL level. One was playing at a very junior level.

Personally I feel that if they aren't playing at an elite level their name should be left out of public discussion.

Do you have the same attitude to those who'd only be here for the 6 Nations, and wouldn't have a clue otherwise...

You are perfectly welcome to your opinion is that misgendering does not exist. It does though.

A trans woman in this thread earlier was referred to as he. She was deliberately misgendered with male pronouns because She does not identify as a He.

Whether you like it or not it exists and it has even been determined that sitewide rules apply on it.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/110864714/#Comment_110864714

You see a topic trending that you take an interest in, you post in it, pretty simple. Plenty of forums that I'd hardly ever go near, but might see something that catches my eye once in a while