Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

Nah. No one here is interested in reality.

A story about a Ukrainian driving a brand new BMW parked outside a post office across 3 disabled spaces whilst she comes out with a brand new pram stuffed to the brim with 50s whilst kicking a swan is what will garner the likes on here.

You know that. The ne'er do wells only want to dehumanise refugees, it makes them feel good about their own lives. Obviously that is profoundly sad, but here we are.

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Interesting article in today's Sunday Times about Ukrainians staying in Maynooth University student accommodation. What struck out was the number who arrived in Ireland via one or more safe countries.

One lad being put up at our expense said he always liked Ireland because of Conor MCgeror, Guinness,Irish whisky moved to Moldova and met a girl there. The two then went to Romania and then to Ireland (left 2 safe countries) are now being given free lodgings and money, no wonder so many Ukrainians are heading here.

Is it too much that when Ukrainians arrive that they are asked where they came from and if its a safe country told to go back there?

I think the word you are looking for is Xenophobia not racism? I would like to see some examples of xenophobic comments please, I haven't seen any, only people concerned about the country being driven into the ground

It is too much too ask! Now no more racist, xenophobic stuff ta. We've 40k+ at the minute and it's a complete s#£tshow, government are expecting 80k here by crimbo. We'll reappraise the situation then.

Some clowns on here, many who don't even live in Ireland will tell us to shut up n it'll be fine. We may get a Ukrainian segment on the toy show and Michael d will tell us to dig a bit deeper. Our kids will commute or kip in their cars during college n we'll be surprised when they leg it as soon as they their degrees. We'll have any amount of refugees in for a free lunch to replace them- so it'll be grand!

women, children, the elderly, people with illness, disability… we were told…from areas where there was fighting … instead….full families, including cohorts of fit, healthy.. young men in the prime of life…

the fact is the vast majority will attempt to stay here and make new lives for themselves.. loads are Western Ukrainians

they do have more rights here then Irish people.…they are prioritised for housing, social welfare, free healthcare and other services…

look up what ‘assylum and protection actually are’…

then there is this fûckin shîtshow

Exaclty, the first 2 months you could say yes it is likely they are escaping a war zone. Anyone coming here in the last couple of months are here for the €€€€.

My post was a literal copy and paste of the post describing Ukraine as a racist and homophobic country, just substituting Ireland for Ukraine.

Yes, Ireland is both racist and xenophobic. Look back through this thread for literally dozens of examples of xenophobia directed at Ukrainians. People only concerned about "the country being driven into the ground" would not be dismissing all Ukrainians as "refugees" (inverted commas used), dismissing them all as welfare tourists, criticising them for working, criticising them for not working, calling them "it", and so on.

They might be sharing bedrooms to sleep in but there is no way they are living in them….

en suite facilities ? No en-suite facilities where I live.

“many in disused schools, convents, b&bs etc”… many in 3 and 4 star hotels, couldn’t they just be happy to flee war and have a roof over their heads, hundreds of euros of free money every week, free medical care, and a host of other supports ;)

Claiming xenophobia/racism is the only defence he has. It is a common tactic these days when anyone from any sort of minority gets called out on their actions. Claim racism/discrimination.

Is it racist and xenophobic to ask why we had to show our papers to have a pint, a meal, to cross borders etc but Ukrainians have come here with no questions asked about their vaccination status?

My life is actually busy enough thanks without seeking out people whom I don’t know, strangers, to meet.

how they have been living, hmm…. In safety, in absolute comfort often, with the citizens of this country enabling them with hundreds of euros in cash per week, free healthcare and other benefits.

you can roar wild accusations like prejudiced , bigoted, and whatever else 🙄… I simply reserve the right to discuss what’s happening in my country and the impact of what’s happening on us citizens, our present, futures, etc….

so you can accuse away, reasonable people see through it and you, and believe me, it’s not a deterrent.