"Green" policies are destroying this country

Yep cut double the amount myself this year as did nearly everyone around here because of the green parties bullshit

Is that not a problem with the insulation on your property? Not used any heating since May.

My home heating is controlled by a thermostat. I never turn the heating off, as I don't need to, but it came on multiple times in June because the house was colder than the target temperature of 19°C inside. It's got nothing to do with me doing the right thing or not, it's simply a fact of the weather that this has not been a scorching summer for it's duration, nor has it been dry, as there was significant rain to the point I had to dash outside with a ladder in a downpour to clear some leaves that were causing the gutters to overflow.

That wouldn't have happened without climate change

how many people ever lived in the middle part of Australia

My point is that human adaptation has its limits.

No electricity = No water.

Just to let you know.

So split the difference 7 years to build, how many years to get through planning and legal issues, like under law they are banned.

Ryan could triple the carbon tax and all it would do is have more people cutting turf that he is not going to get a red cent in carbon tax from.

His attempts at messing around with turf is just another example of greens being very poor on joined up thinking.

You are describing a very very distant hypothetical future. Like couple more generations in future. Meanwhile this is what you actually promote.

"Climate change: Ireland declares climate emergency, 9 May 2019" https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48221080

Now I don't agree with there being any sort of emergency or that Ireland needs to do anything whatsover to decrease emissions, for reasons including a country responsible for just 0.03 % of the small amount of atmospheric CO2 that comes from anthropogenic sources isn't going to make any difference whatsoever. So I'm perfectly happy if nothing is done whatsoever, but anyone who thinks there is an actual emergency in the form of a real threat to humankind would not be concerned about things like planning permission or stupid laws passed by stupid leprechauns.

Planning permission as a thing, only exists because of laws, as with the stupid no nuclear thing. I don't know why so many Irish people think laws are permanent and unchangeable, but here's a shock for you, they aren't.

If the government truly believed there was an emergency, and that it was important tht Ireland do something meaningful in a short time frame, they would just amend the planning legislation and rescind the national embarrassment that is the nuclear ban, and they wouldn't hang about doing so, either.

These things are artificial and unnecessary constraints, they could be removed or altered very rapidly, then Ireland could have a near zero electricity grid inside of ten years. not failing to achieve that aim even in 30 years, which is the current reality. Not only that, but making the capacity higher than present needs, would in one stroke solve the problem of an inability to power an all electric fleet of cars and the even bigger problem of powering heat pumps.

I wonder how many listed buildings or national monuments were built with planning permission?

Give it a day, and rain, thunder and dropping temperature will be further proof that we are all doomed if we do not repent and become unquestioning supporters of the green cult.

Quick thread catch-up:

• I also had the heating kick in a couple of times this June. Being a good eco-saint who watches their carbon footprint my thermostat is only set to 18°C.
• Remember 1995 very well. Passed through the midlands on the way to climbing Croagh Patrick on the hottest day. Back then the cure for a heatwave was an ice-pop in the local garage, not a tripling of your electricity bills forever.
• And being an old geezer, I also remember 1976. Spent much of the summer in the UK. People's lawns didn't just wither and bleach, many cracked up and had deep gullies running across them. Spent a week on a flat-bottomed boat on the Thames, which managed to not dry up.
• I seem to remember the 80s having cloudier summers than either the 70s or 90s. I think nature was rebelling against all the depressing pop music and fashion crimes.

"Lol. Europe is having a temporary drought, "nothing to see here" but if Ireland has a temporary electricity shortage it's the end of the world and the greens caused it."

A temporary electricity shortage is when a cat gets into the local sub-transformer. That's a bit different from a permanently unstable grid because the energy minister doesn't see fit to provide essential capacity or allow fuel to be imported.

"In case you didn't know, water is essential for life. Electricity is a modern convenience."

Only a Greenie could be this naive. It's been estimated that a total grid shutdown in the US could kill between two thirds and 90% of the population in a year or so. That's a bit more than a "convenience".

"Because of climate change glaciers are disappearing, rivers are running dry, lakes are evaporating, rainfall patterns are changing causing droughts and extreme floods."

Yeah, we're going to have to do a bit of adapting alright (as we have been for the past 100 years).

"I'm not hubristic enough to believe I can make any personal sacrifices big enough to make a difference. I am prepared to accept higher taxes and higher energy bills if they are required to accelerate the transition to zero carbon energy."

See, that's what intrigues me. Your end goal is to get to zero carbon energy. What happened to stopping climate change? Let me ask it more bluntly: how many degrees of warming will be saved by Ireland crippling its energy supply and tripling energy prices? I would take every cent of that money and spend it on adaptation as required. Because, in order to be effective, policy responses have to:

• actually achieve something,
• yield a greater benefit than the same resources expended elsewhere.

(Note: "achieving something" doesn't include engendering a warm fuzzy feeling of Green virtue while people are starved of vital energy).