Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

Well then, I'm sure that you would agree that 30 hours is not normally considered to be a full time job and would be thought of as "part-time".

Although I fail to see the relevance of this to Ukrainian refugees. So I don't quite get why ye are going on about it other than ye just want to vent and argue with people.

I would have thought it was more. Not so bad so.

Ukrainian soccer team?

Is that 36k then for the ones they are providing for, or an average across all including those self-sufficient or being looked after by the likes of yourself?

It's actually not very much at all if people compare it all the indirect money spent on everyone who lives here anyway.

And definitely a lot cheaper than building bombs or putting boots on the ground over there

I never said the taxpayer gets subsidised to the tune of exactly 36k

But what do you think the cost is for running everything in the State? Hospitals, roads, Guards, teachers, universities, social welfare, prisons and so on and so on.

Government budget for last year was 87.6 billion. That's about 17,500 average across every man, woman and child.

Suckit, being confident about made up stats you make up does not make them correct. You shouldn't be spreading such fallacies.

Ireland isn't even in the top ten per capita in the EU.

Regardless of what outrage you read on Facebook

Nothing read on Facebook (I'm not on it, can't view, nor have the desire to), nor made up. But I did see the way you avoided acknowledging the directive does not require us to take in as many as we are.

Not knowing the facts and claiming they are wrong or facebook outrage doesn't make them wrong.

Although I am not surprised you didn't know that. It shouldn't have been that much of a surprise anyway, as we already know Ireland are taking in way too many. With almost 2% of the Ukrainian Refugees in Europe, being in Ireland and growing.

All easily verified here or here.

More than half have returned. There are almost 3 million Refugees in Europe now, with many of those in non EU countries.

Those in closer countries are also the only ones higher than Ireland that have taken in as many per thousand, which is what you would expect from them, but doesn't explain Ireland.

No, but being wrong makes them wrong.

Obviously probably not a source that you'd trust but the figures I have are from the UNHCR.

Top 10 countries per capita:

Czech Republic   3.82%
Estonia   3.72%
Poland   3.36%
Lithuania   2.21%
Latvia   1.90%
Slovakia   1.59%
Bulgaria   1.25%
Germany   1.13%
Cyprus   1.09%
Austria   0.87%

Feel free to provide the source of your own, dare I say makey-uppy, "figures". Think about it though. You are quoting 1.4 per thousand people here. Our population is about 5.1 million. Or about 5,100 thousands. That would correspond to 7,140 refugees by your figures............

I did welcome Ukrainians at the beginning of this war, but have much more compassion for Syrians and the Afghan people in particular, moreso because of the way we have treated them as less deserving of help and support over the last couple of months. I'm actually appauled that we can treat people fleeing from different wars in different ways.