Random EV thoughts.....

On my short travels today I only saw three EVs. An EQS, a Model Y and an iX. No recession here.

Can you imagine theayhem at the border

I was charging at Ionity gorey yesterday in my MX75, and either side of me were 222 registrations, on the left a lovely blue BMW iX40 and on the right an equally impressive silver Etron GT. There's certainly money out there, reminds me of all the range rover sports purchased in '06

I was looking at an ix and to get it at a realistic trim level you're at 95-100k. Etron GT is 130-140, so more like 30k than 70 but point taken. And to be honest I'd prefer the iX

sorry i read that as i40 not ix40 my bad.

but prefer an ix over an etron GT, 😯

I have seen a few now and i want to like them, its a great car by all accounts, but it is a munter. We are changing our etron 50 and despite looking at the alternatives im getting an etron 55 sportback as the other cars in the segment arent doing it for me.

But we all have different tastes!

I am having a similar experience. I ordered a Kia EV6 in March, I was informed in May that the order will not be fulfilled this year and that the price has increased by €2,000. Recently I checked again with the dealership, they expect the car to be delivered around March 2023. In addition Kia are having a dealer conference in October and more than likely a price increase for 2023.

It seems to me that I will be better off canceling my order and look again at this issue in 2 years time. Maybe by then the chip shortage and production issues will be sorted out. Also there should be more choice of EVs with a corresponding normalisation of prices. I have a long commute with 75% of it motorway. I would need a large battery EV but I have a diesel Honda that has done 410,000kms relatively trouble free and I would rather add another 100,000kms to it then buy another ICE car, or be gouged on price increases while waiting a year for a car.

Of course I looked at the Model 3, great car my sister has one in the States but I didn't want a saloon car, nor did I want an SUV. At least the Kia EV6, Ioniq 5 and Polestars are not SUVs or disguise themselves effectively.

Model Y is a good bit more expensive than the base model of the Kia EV6 as it doesn't come in the base model, only in the long range AWD model. So it doesn't get the grant. It is readily available though and like the EV6 and Ioniq 5, it doesn't look l like an SUV that much. Did you check availability of the Ioniq 5? Its base model is a lot cheaper than the Kia EV6 and I don't know how long your commute is but it's quite likely the 58kWh base model can cover it.

It's a tempting idea, but after 12 months I would have put 50,000kms on the car. I doubt even a Tesla would increase in value after that mileage, even in this market. My general point is considering that demand is outstripping supply and EV prices are always going up (to the point of nullifying the SEAI grant), is it not better to wait until the market stabilises if you can?

The same car though in a few months will probably cost €58k... and there are Tesla's for sale now on done deal asking for similar or even higher than the original purchase price...

I got 2 trade in valuations from Tesla for my 2020 SR+

November 2020 with 16,000km on it = €37,000

January 2022 with 48,510km on it = €39,620

So Tesla valuations are going silly as well!!!

In reality if selling private at the time, I'd have expected probably 45-47k for it (paid €48k for it)

The thing is as well with the Model 3, despite you wanting a bigger car, you'd probably find it very hard to give up the Tesla after driving it for a few months, especially when you experience the Supercharging network.

How long do you think this market abberation will continue? Personally I can't understand why someone would pay more that the new price for a used car when they could have a new one in 4 to 6 weeks.

I'm still hoping I can do an upgrade as I have a new RWD on order... I could have gotten it in this delivery cycle, but am happy to wait til 2023 for it, and If I can still get the price I ordered at (grant included), I'll probably take it in early 2023.. No issues losing 0.5s in acceleration to 100 as its far outweighed by the multitude of upgrades the car has received since I bought mine!!

Too much hassle to swap this year as we're going through the process of buying a house abroad, and it'd be a bit of a ball ache to be trying to sell the car in the middle of all that....

Now I just need to install a Zappi there as it's coming with about 20 PV panels as standard ~7kWp!!!!

Route 2 will be easier and more reliable for charging but very boring. Route 1 (which I haven’t done yet) is likely to be a lot more scenic and with more unique places to stop for food.

Yeah I think I'll take the A55 and M6 route, seems like I'll need fewer braincells on that route

Charging on the M6 seems okay, I'm aiming for Ionity Stafford, but that site seems quite busy. There's a couple more hubs nearby though so I'll live

The route through Wales looks like a fairly epic drive, but I'm not sure I'd manage 4-5 hours of it

Nah, gonna head along North coast of Wales then join the M6 around Stoke on Trent and head South from there

ABRP did suggest that as a charging stop, but I'm not sold on that road. Looking at the map it seems to be constant zigzags across central Wales.

I seem to recall that Welsh geography can be best described as "not flat" so I'm guessing it's a lot of hillside roads. Probably an epic drive but not something I'd put up with for hours

I think I'll take the idiot proof roads and just leave it to the Travel assist on the car to do most of the thinking