183k PPSNs Issued first half of the year

17-08-2022 2:47am #1

Government source here:

https://assets.gov.ie/231271/d46fb241-9fa1-40b6-b010-dd8bdd0577cb.pdf

Of which 41k were Irish. Dont want this thread to be about pros and cons of multiculturalism, there is another thread for that.

I'm interested in what looks like, to me, a severe lack if planning for these kind of numbers.

Rental vacancies are at a low

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2022/0809/1314797-rents-sought-rose-record-12-6-in-second-quarter-daft/

Not seeing any political debates on how best to deal with this influx.

Should we be building a new city somewhere ? How many more schools and hospitals will be needed etc.

Some of the top source nationalities:

PPS NUMBERS ISSUED SO FAR IN 2022 to end of July this year.

UKRAINE 46,436

IRELAND 41,531

BRAZIL 10,600

ROMANIA 9,818

INDIA 9,791

UK 7,685

SPAIN 5,021

ITALY 4,098

POLAND 3,280

FRANCE 2,945

PORTUGAL 2,679

USA 2,018

BULGARIA 1,996

TURKEY 1,957

MEXICO 1,528

GERMANY 1,511

NIGERIA 1,445

SOUTH AFRICA 1,408

CHINA 1,361

CHILE 1,305

CROATIA 1,193

PAKISTAN 1,132

GEORGIA 1,109

PHILIPPINES 1,104

SOMALIA 1,101

Anyway of predicting based on the list

How many are likely to be temporary (Ukraine?) Are non EU more or less likely to stay long term etc etc.

Just seems like a total lack of planning and foresight. Or is there even a problem at all...

Polar101 · 17-08-2022 5:56am

Well, I guess it depends on what the net number is - some people have left/moved abroad, some have died.. etc.

francois · 17-08-2022 6:13am

Not another immigration thread...

Irish_rat · 17-08-2022 6:44am

Don't forget there was a scheme this year for undocumented workers living here 4+ years that they could apply for PPS numbers. Then obviously the Ukraine aswell.

That coupled with Brexit, it's no surprise the numbers were seeing.

Immigration is good usually for the economy once it doesn't go overboard.

zell12 · 17-08-2022 8:05am

Three people from St Helena (pop 4400) got them in July. Who are these people?!!

SEPT 23 1989 · 17-08-2022 10:08am

Who in their right mind would leave St Lucia for here?

redlough · 17-08-2022 10:35am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119484129#Comment_119484129

Poverty – According to UNICEF, 25.1 percent of individuals and 18.7 percent of households live in poverty in Saint Lucia.

redlough · 17-08-2022 10:38am

I think this is a better view, of course not including 2022

This year of course will be higher due to the war but the expectation is most will return to Ukraine after that.

Butson · 17-08-2022 10:41am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119483653#Comment_119483653

Well the media won't touch it with a bargepole, so forums like this is where it get discussed.

Ubbquittious · 17-08-2022 10:42am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119484129#Comment_119484129

Big unemployment there and snakes

17-08-2022 10:51am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058259154/183k-ppsns-issued-first-half-of-the-year

Its not 140k extra people. Its 140k new PPS numbers. A lot leave also. A PPS number does not equal permanent residents. It was expected that net inward migration weould have been ca. 12k. The Ukrainians are obviously additional, but most will not stay and have no wish to stay

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/IRL/ireland/net-migration#:~:text=The%20current%20net%20migration%20rate,a%2013.53%25%20decline%20from%202019.

kippy · 17-08-2022 10:52am

It's no bigger a problem than we've always had in that we are not in a position to take these increases in population.

Out housing, water, electric, health, education, teansport infrastructures have been creaking for years. We have put very little actual solutions into these despite a trending higher population.

The jobs are generally there but everything else isn't. Not suggesting we stop people coming here. The opposite really. We need to reduce the average age of the population to support the economy but we really need to get our sh1t together.on above issues

Markus Antonius · 17-08-2022 11:43am

Plenty of room in Mayo

MrStuffins · 17-08-2022 12:01pm

Surprised Boards has existed this long without ever having a thrad on immigration. Congrats OP! Blazing a trail!

mustardorcustard · 17-08-2022 12:04pm

You can't get those juicy asset prices and rents without a perpetual housing crisis.

Imagine if an employee was told to do a job, and 10 years later they haven't done the job. That's the government and the housing crisis. Very believable, isn't it, "doing their best"?

A macro economic scam is all it ever was, and nice cheap labour as a bonus.

"The economy", yeah, a stupid single number on a page that's purposefully manipulated to be as far from reality as possible. Conmen left right and centre telling you precisely the opposite of what they're doing. We're being robbed blind.

17-08-2022 12:17pm

Goes to show that despite the endless whinging from Irish people with zero perspective, it's a pretty damn good and desirable place to live.

No war, no famine, no human rights abuses, clean water, an abundance of food.

maninasia · 17-08-2022 12:24pm

The net immigration number is estimated at 60k per year.

Massively more this year obviously.

Ukranians are 'not expected to stay' Why would most them leave after getting set up?

maninasia · 17-08-2022 12:26pm

Its terrible if you are lookong for rentals right now.

Absolutely brutal.

Pussyhands · 17-08-2022 12:31pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119484299#Comment_119484299

How many Syrians left?

Allinall · 17-08-2022 12:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119484680#Comment_119484680

What about the non Irish living here?

Are they cucks also?

Pussyhands · 17-08-2022 12:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119483653#Comment_119483653

Maybe if people woke up to the fact that it's been putting a massive strain on our housing crisis there wouldn't be so many threads on it?

17-08-2022 12:37pm

Solution? A start on the right track?

First I've seen of someone actually realising we need more infrastructure

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/dublin/2022/08/17/plans-to-construct-peripheral-virtually-car-free-dublin-town/?fbclid=IwAR1zozu4v6WJnFbYlZhBs2j54hTdID-KqKWcXxx_ksu1-b9bVBX6NU6b4QQ

Heraclius · 17-08-2022 12:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119484680#Comment_119484680

Or perhaps the Irish don't want to be racist rather than just not wanting to be called racist.

Pussyhands · 17-08-2022 12:41pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119484703#Comment_119484703

The cucks ARE the Irish living here not caring about controllable immigration.

17-08-2022 12:41pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119484687#Comment_119484687

Because Syria is now returned to stability eh?

And only 3.5k came

Pussyhands · 17-08-2022 12:42pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119484720#Comment_119484720

"wah, rents are too high, there's no where to live"....."let's bring in 45k additional people from non EEA area :) "

17-08-2022 12:42pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119484714#Comment_119484714

On the Facebook post about that, there was mostly complaining, which demonstrates what I suspect: some people just enjoy complaining, no matter what.

Allinall · 17-08-2022 12:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119484725#Comment_119484725

I was asking about the non Irish living here.

Are they cucks also?

Pussyhands · 17-08-2022 12:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119484731#Comment_119484731

It doesn't matter how many came. The same thing was said about Syrians returning.

You think Ukraine is going to return to stability any time soon? Sure even if there was a peace agreement there wouldn't be many returning as "the threat of Russians invading again" would still be there.

The Ukrainians will not be leaving in any great numbers. They're still arriving ffs 6 months after the war began.

Pussyhands · 17-08-2022 12:46pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119484745#Comment_119484745

No, they're the ones **** our wives while we, the cucks, watch on.

RobbieTheRobber · 17-08-2022 12:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119484763#Comment_119484763

Well if that's your fetish PH who are we on boards to intervene. Consenting adults and all that.

183k PPSNs Issued first half of the year

Comments