Better Call Saul ***Spoilers***

One thing I loved about BCS was the misdirection. I remember reading a theory that 'Slippin' Jimmy' would be caught after slipping in the Nebraska icy conditions while fleeing the police and that what started his con man success would ironically bring him down.

In the finale, when Jimmy/Saul is fleeing his house towards the tunnel to avoid the police helicopter he is running and trying to keep his balance on the slippery ice and just when you think this is it, Slippin Jimmy is about to literally slip, he makes it into the tunnel safely.

Love the fact you sometimes think you know what's going to happen only for the writers to pull the rug from under you.

The Kim confession undoubtedly shocked him. But I think he negotiated the 'deal' precisely because he wanted to upend it in the court, in a way he couldn't have done any other way. He knew what he was doing from the moment he saw the graffitti on the wall of the cell.

Hence appointing himself as his own defence, the courts/law was Jimmy's realm, he could control things there.

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I`d like to think that Jimmy appeals the length of the sentence, gets it down to fifteen years, hooks up with Kim when he gets out and he joins Kim in free legal aid work.

what a brilliant series

TBH, and it will never happen, but I'd sign up for a series of Jimmy's prison life right now. Here's my credit card! 😁

I've given it my first watch , which lets me see the outcome, but without me trying to capture all the detail and missing the wood for the trees. Gutted at the outcome, even though there certainly had to be a reckoning .

When Jimmy was giving his statement to the prosecutors, it felt like he was confessing all, to us. Well, especially me, so that I would accept the outcome.

When we saw Kim at the back of the court, I knew he was going to fall on his sword to a certain extent - he still loves her after all. When Kim visited him in jail, that was a tough watch. Them having a smoke against the wall, just like way-back-when in HHM. Or outside Wexler/Magill .

In the scene in the vacuum cleaner shop, Walt says "I'd never hire YOU as a lawyer", I was thinking "the cheek of you, meth cook and murderer" - and Jimmy's crestfallen expression when Walt said it. I'm not sure yet of the significance of the use of the time machine to go back to the first slip and fall, other than on the face of it to remind us of Jimmy's origins. Then the scene at the water tank in the desert - "so it was all about the money?" Reinforcing the negative aspects of Jimmy's character. Once again preparing us for the outcome.

And the scene with Chuck , "our conversations always end the same way" said in an accusing way at Jimmy, when in reality Chuck was a snob and didn't want his little brother getting into the law through the back door. Jimmy was right, Chuck wouldn't discuss the type of cases Jimmy was taking, and probability wouldn't even take on those clients. If anything, this re-ignites my sympathy for Jimmy and - let's call it antipathy - for Chuck. These 'conversations' were in fact always about Jimmy abandoning the law, perhaps returning to the mail room.

It was interesting seeing Kim back in 'Doc Review' , but this time voluntarily.

Anyway, looks like I was completely wrong about how they'd do it. I didn't think they could swing a judicial ending, but they did. And they did it well, in my opinion. There's no wiggle room, Jimmy will see out his days as Saul the Baker, with free advice to the inmates which should keep him sweet with everyone and save him from the shank.

While there are many other excellent series out there, there's nothing where I have become so invested in the characters the way I did with Jimmy and Kim and Mike. I'll miss them.

I'll also miss all the chat on this thread. It was fantastic reading the theories and explanations, from all of you. You all contributed to making the story even better for me. Wonderful. Hopefully something else comes along that we all, once again, get to enjoy and share our thoughts with each other.

Funny you should say that interview given to AMC by Peter Gould and another from Rhea Seehorn, there could be a Kim Wexler spinoff in the future but can't see it happening for. 5 plus years from now

Peter Gould

Rhea Seehorn

I suppose as long as Peter and Vince were onboard it could work I suppose

That's pretty encouraging! Wonder what direction they would go with a Kim focused show, assume it would have to be post BCS.

Is it possible to quote part of somebody's post like it used to be?? The last paragraph of what you said is what I'm addressing...

Half my reason for being on boards these days is the BCS thread. I love the discussion and insightful (sometimes inciteful!) and well meant but off the wall posts too 😀

I think slow is the wrong word it was slowly subtle. Building up to a boom. The viewer was forced to pay attention to the minuscule details. Which could later prove to be important. Bar the cousins there were no ‘cardboard cut out’ characters. As a result the viewer was invested in the characters . And it was because the characters were given a rounded perspective

In contrast the ‘crash bang wallop’ shows, which don’t bother with much character development. The characters are disposable and they don’t have much meaning to the viewer.

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I really hope it's the end of the BB-verse. Lightning struck for them twice, but the more you add to that universe, the more you're also restricted by it. We have so much of all the characters pasts, presents and even futures that it just seems needless.id much rather Gilligan and Gould, together or separately, make new things, free from having to tie everything into 11 seasons of TV and a TV movie. Work with some of the same actors again in new roles.