Frank Duffy 10m - Aug 20, 2022

Murph_D · 02-08-2022 8:17pm #1

Who’s in for this one? One of my favourite races - it was my first ‘real’ race back in 2012 and have run it every year since (excepting recent virtual versions).

New course this year, which looks a bit tougher than the old - thoughts?

Always great to race in the Phoenix Park and this race is always well organised, as you’d expect from the Dublin Race Series.

BeepBeep67 · 03-08-2022 8:44am

Drafted in for pacing duties.

turfman1 · 03-08-2022 8:52am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119422383#Comment_119422383

What are the pacing times? Hoping to go sub 1:20

03-08-2022 8:57am

I just signed up for this. Flights home only £25. T'was my last race in 2017 and I need a new t-shirt.

MisterDrak · 03-08-2022 9:08am

Hi D,

Frank is a favourite of mine also... Its a race that even if im not in the best shape will always try to empty myself for it.

Definitially different this year alright, and as you mentioned a bit tougher given its on the "lower" part of the park.

Anyway hopefully the weather will play ball and we will all get what we want...

brick tamland · 03-08-2022 9:26am

Anyone thats run this before, official emails say no parking in the park, but if i was to get there early enough do you think you'll be able to park at the cross or vistors centre?

BeepBeep67 · 03-08-2022 9:33am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119422404#Comment_119422404

That's my slot, let's get a Boards cohort together

Naked Lepper · 03-08-2022 10:10am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119422510#Comment_119422510

They close off the visitors centre sometimes when there is events. Id imagine the road down past the cross will also be closed since the route comes up along that way too. Conyngham road or else war memorial park might be ok alternatives.

rovers_runner · 03-08-2022 2:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119422510#Comment_119422510

See DCM thread, there is a map of the multiple car parks in there.

The Muppets in the park can't even police a few scobies with BBQs so don't stress about parking.

Unthought Known · 03-08-2022 3:09pm

I'm in. Not sure yet whether this will be raced or run at MP as I'm planning to race the HM.

I've attempted to plot the course to see the elevation profile (not entirely accurate but close enough) https://www.plotaroute.com/route/1991003

Would there be parking on North Rd?

Murph_D · 05-08-2022 1:34am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119424085#Comment_119424085

I have blocked rovers_runner so normally don't see his posts but made an exception here as I started the thread. As most boardsies know, the 'muppet' in question is closer to home than Robert thinks.

The thread is about running and racing, not parking. However I will probably drive to the vicinity myself but if I do I won't be parking in the Park. Even if you find a space there you'll be waiting a long time to get out. The Park is one of the easiest places in Ireland to get to via public transport.

Murph_D · 05-08-2022 1:38am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119422383#Comment_119422383

Excellent. Any thoughts on the course from a running/pacing POV?

rovers_runner · 05-08-2022 9:48am

Good man posting people's names Denis. Just as well I've never cared either way, but get your kicks whichever way you can.

Be sure to say hello on the 20th.

BeepBeep67 · 05-08-2022 10:29am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119431150#Comment_119431150

Haven't even thought about it, probably even pace 2-3 secs under 8's.

Murph_D · 05-08-2022 7:40pm

Worth noting for Dublin club runners, the Frank Duffy still incorporates the county 10 Mile championship, so don’t forget to include club affiliation when entering, and enter before end of day today:

The Irish Life Frank Duffy 10 Mile road race, incorporating the Dublin 10 mile road race championships, takes place on Saturday 20th August in Phoenix Park. Entries for this race will close on 5th August. Runners who have entered for a Dublin Club at race registration, will also be eligible for the Dublin championships. Medals will be awarded to the first three home from Dublin clubs and for the usual masters’ categories (M/F35+ to M/F65+). Team medals will also be awarded for senior and masters’ (35+ and 50+ teams). Four to score on all teams except F50+ which is three. Team captains must ensure their runners who enter the Dublin Championships, start from the first wave of runners so as to give all teams an equal chance.

(from Dublin Athletics website)

rovers_runner · 12-08-2022 10:30pm

From Phoenix Park website, RCO details.

Parking on raceday remains a mystery unless you are in the clique. Main avenue and North Road not stated in RCO so obviously open to the public. Beware of but humour the high vis heroes on the day.

"Date of Event: Saturday 20th August 2022

Roads to be closed to vehicular traffic:

Chesterfield Avenue (Phoenix to Mountjoy Roundabout) will be Closed from 9.00pm on Friday 19th August until 2.00pm on Saturday 20th August

Ordnance Survey Road Saturday 8.00am – 12.00pm

Military Road Saturday 8.00am – 12.00pm

Upper Glen Road Saturday 8.00am – 12.00pm

Acres Road Saturday 8.00am – 1.00pm

Wellington Road will be Closed from 10.00pm on Friday 19th August until 12.00pm on Saturday 20th August

Gates to be closed:

Castleknock Gate Saturday 8.45am – 12.00pm

Chapelizod Gate Saturday 8.00am – 2.00pm

Islandbridge Gate will be Closed from 11.00pm on Friday 19th August until 12.00pm on Saturday 20th August

Knockmaroon Gate will be Closed from 11.00pm on Friday 19th August until 2.00pm on Saturday 20th August

Access to St. Mary’s Hospital and Cara Cheshire Home will be unaffected.

Parking only permitted in areas agreed with Organisers. All roads and gates will re-open as soon as it is safe to do so"

Unthought Known · 13-08-2022 10:23am

Looks like an early North Rd arrival for me then.

Murph_D · 14-08-2022 8:02pm

I always found the drag up the North Road tough at race pace but I'd take it this year - not a huge fan of that triangle around the Acres football pitches although it's fine for training. Should be an intriguing event.

Bananaleaf · 14-08-2022 10:48pm

Is there on-street parking along Conyngham Rd? According to Google maps there is. Does anyone know the cost? And if you have to pay on a Saturday? Thanks

nullObjects · 15-08-2022 9:06am

Course route and profile here in case it helps:

https://irishlifedublinmarathon.ie/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/10-mile-Profile-2000x201.jpg

Naked Lepper · 15-08-2022 3:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119473926#Comment_119473926

there is on street parking between bridgewater house and the dublin bus depot on the side of the road that the liffey is on

i am not sure of the costs of saturday parking situation. i am fairly sure it is metered so probably a couple of euro per hour

MisterJinx · 16-08-2022 9:29am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119474685#Comment_119474685

Definitely going to be a challenging one to pace correctly!

brick tamland · 16-08-2022 10:09am

Has anyone seen anything on what times the pacers are running to?

smashiner · 16-08-2022 12:14pm

I signed up yesterday...it seems like a 100 years since I did a race in the Phoenix Park, although I run there 2-3 times a week. Tough enough course at it is on the 'hilly' side of the Park, first 2 miles are handy as they are flat/downhill but leave something in the tank and don't get caught up in the excitement and burn out too quick as there are plenty of hills to contend with for the next 8 miles (your legs will thank you afterwards). Defo not a PB course in my opinion, but a great race and super training for the DCHM or the DCM.

There is parking at Heuston Station and get a shuttle bus up (or cycle) from the bottom of the Park could be a good shout. You can now pay for your parking using Ticket machines in the Station in case coins are in short supply for the P&D machines in the car park.

Looking forward to it now....and the cool Tee Shirt that comes with it 😀

rovers_runner · 16-08-2022 6:09pm

One for the country folk.

As over priced as hotels are this weekend at twice the normal rate of years gone by, keep in mind that the night before the half marathon clashes with Garth Brooks in Croke Park, hotels out of the question that night, up to 4 times normal prices.

Thinking I'll day trip it for both at this stage.

Trampas · 17-08-2022 9:16am

I’ll be making my decision on running the half based on reports on how well this runs based on driving there.

rovers_runner · 17-08-2022 9:35am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119483927#Comment_119483927

Does anyone else foresee a sh*tshow like Swords in 2017?

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/two-hour-traffic-delay-spoils-dublin-half-marathon-1.3231877

They are still telling people up to the other day over facebook there is no parking to be had, where do they expect people to go? Public transport in Dublin is a disgrace at the moment, especially heroin central on the Red Luas line. Clampers and DCC going to make a fortune also on fines.

brick tamland · 17-08-2022 9:41am

Normally id have no issue getting public transport to a sporting event I was going to, its just the thought of getting back on a Luas/Bus all sweaty after a 10 mile race. Tallaght was great for the 5m, loads of parking a short walk from the start

Anyway, looking forward to this now. It looks like almost perfect conditions forecast for this time of year.

nullObjects · 17-08-2022 10:25am

Yeah the Tallaght one was pretty well organised. Lifting the barriers to let everyone out quickly was clever.

Don't forget the start line is pretty far from the entrance to the park (more than 30 mins walk) so there's a shuttle bus.

WayneEnterprise · 17-08-2022 12:56pm

Anyone know if there is registration on the day?

Trampas · 17-08-2022 1:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119484011#Comment_119484011

I did it that day. Unless they close all gates in park to vehicle traffic and have someone preventing people from parking everywhere people will do it.

Murph_D · 17-08-2022 3:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119484809#Comment_119484809

Doubt it - not a normal option for Race Series events, although you never know. I'd email or ring them for a definitive answer.

office@dublinmarathon.ie

353-1-6232250

BeepBeep67 · 18-08-2022 6:25am

70 to 100mins in 10's

MisterJinx · 18-08-2022 9:30am

Any one any ideas on how to pace this race? steep downhill in the first section followed by the sbends and then up again to the 15 acres. Best to hold just slightly above target pace on the down hill and take the hill steady and have enough to finish in reasonable shape?

smashiner · 18-08-2022 10:09am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119488038#Comment_119488038

Yep, your plan is exactly the way I am going to run this race. Going to use the first 2-3 miles as a warm up and gain a little time on the flat/downhill start, will pull back a little for miles 3 to 6 on the hills and then lift the pace a little for the last 4 miles and see what is left in the tank.

The last 3-4 miles are actually not too bad with a little hill towards the end. I think that this approach will mean that you should be passing people for the last 4 miles of the race rather than going out too hard and being passed out by hoards of people...…makes for a much more enjoyable race.

Best of luck!

Trampas · 18-08-2022 11:58am

One thing about marathon race series is the races in the park are honest courses. Not hard or easy but fair and will give you a fair idea where you are.

no climb out of chapelizord at end to worry about should improve times.

rovers_runner · 18-08-2022 5:33pm

Would be better if they had just started from day one this year and admitted that they aimed to take in fewer participants and eventually limit it to locals only, suggesting as they have below taking three forms of transport that involve being miles from the start 2hrs before the race.

Couple that for a vast number of potential entrants with a one or two hour drive to get to said car park makes no sense, god be with the good old days.

Back from when the series started until 2016 everything was perfect, why change...

https://twitter.com/dublinmarathon/status/1559990725030420480?s=20&t=UD0rxU1pkHDHVe9YPOwOcg

Unthought Known · 18-08-2022 5:47pm

Race series say there is no parking available, but OPW don't seem to confirm that??

https://twitter.com/phoenixparkopw/status/1554815142705205250?t=bcrnc61UYE5Np_mP2h-iSA&s=19

alanjf · 18-08-2022 7:18pm

Its the opw who arent opening the carparks, before 9, not sure why, they also arent giving permission to use the road from the back of the Zoo to,Castleknock, for races. The reason it wasn't used for the irish runner 10 mile and wont be used for the Dublin half

pc11 · 19-08-2022 8:17am

That's it, I'm out. All this crap around parking and the course and the rest so I've entered the Termonfeckin 10mile on Sunday. Flatter course and definitely easier parking and travel. Weather looks better on Sunday too.

Frank Duffy 2019 was my worst run in years, I was not well at all that day, so to be honest it's a relief to go elsewhere!

Good luck.

justfortherecor · 19-08-2022 8:44am

Used the bike park last time out (Race Series Half Mara '19) and it worked well - just gonna go on that basis again tomorrow.

19-08-2022 9:07am

Surprised at the moaning. Looks like it's gonna be windy one.

nullObjects · 19-08-2022 9:35am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119492342#Comment_119492342

aye, think some parts of the park aren't that well sheltered from the wind either.

At the minute though at least it looks like the rain will hold off for the first hour or so

rovers_runner · 19-08-2022 9:40am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119492342#Comment_119492342

You mustn't be faimilar with how well this used to be run so then. Will be able to read tomorrow afternoon who was lying between OPW and DCM anyway.

Am happy to support another race down the country next week and leave this off.

FinnC · 19-08-2022 9:53am

Some amount of moaning snowflakes on this thread. Not doing it because of parking, it’s gonna be windy, it’s too hilly, it might rain.

Jesus,Mary and Joseph and the poor wee donkey but some of you need to grow a set.

PGL · 19-08-2022 12:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119479764#Comment_119479764

I would like to know the answer to this question also please....

BeepBeep67 · 19-08-2022 1:12pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119487682#Comment_119487682

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119493180#Comment_119493180

^^

PGL · 19-08-2022 1:53pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119493496#Comment_119493496

a bit surprised there isn't faster pacers (e.g. 50mins and 60mins) not that I'll be needing them.....

19-08-2022 2:18pm

a 5 min mile pacer? No chance.

BeepBeep67 · 19-08-2022 4:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119493728#Comment_119493728

You might get half a dozen runners +/- 20 seconds of 60 min, and probably less sub 50, plus its the Dublin champs.

event · 19-08-2022 8:20pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119493728#Comment_119493728

Aye they are flying in Kipchoge to pace 50 mins

Frank Duffy 10m - Aug 20, 2022

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