"Green" policies are destroying this country

So we have now moved to a consensus that there is a real possibility of blackouts due to government policy.

At least we are making progress on this thread.

There is a fight against fascism happening right now. Russia v Ukraine. That's what is causing the threat to Ireland's energy security this winter.

If the gas pipeline stays flowing Ireland's energy security is fine. The only plausible reason the gas won't flow is if Putin shuts off supply and causes a crunch

If we had CNG tanks we’d be fine for a month or so.

But we don't which is a direct result of government dereliction of duty.

Previous years the risk of blackouts were very very low (apart from local outages due to storms)

What is the % risk of blackouts this winter that has you all foaming at the mouth about the greens?

You paint such a lovely fuzzy warm feelings picture there of the climate 'scientists' (no more science than economics is) genuinely trying to find weakness in their own work.

God that's funny.

" [D]on’t leave stuff lying around on ftp sites — you never know who is trawling them. The two MMs have been after the CRU station data for years. If they ever hear there is a Freedom of Information Act now in the UK, I think I’ll delete the file rather than send to anyone. Does your similar act in the US force you to respond to enquiries within 20 days? - our does! […] Tom Wigley has sent me a worried email when he heard about it—thought people could ask him for his model code. He has retired officially from UEA so he can hide behind that.21/2/2005: I’m getting hassled by a couple of people to release the CRU station temperature data. Don’t any of you three tell anybody that the UK has a Freedom of Information Act!

27/4/2005: I got this email from McIntyre a few days ago. As far as I’m concerned he has the data — sent ages ago. I’ll tell him this, but that’s all — no code. If I can find it, it is likely to be hundreds of lines of uncommented fortran ! I recall the program did a lot more than just average the series. I know why he can’t replicate the results early on — it is because there was a variance correction for fewer series.

29/5/2008: Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re AR4? Keith will do likewise. […] Can you email Gene and get him to do the same? […] We will be getting Caspar to do likewise."

The file, as I understand it, is the raw surface station temperature data, which would show how they went about increasing the temperatures of many stations via adjustments, to more clearly show the warming trend.

My wife is a scientist who teaches at a university, does research, supervises Phd students, authors papers, peer reviews papers and is more than slightly competent in mathmatics, physics, statistics and chemistry. She. like @ps200306, read a lot of the papers published by M. Mann and co, and like him/her, found the standard of those papers to be questionable, with grave suspicions about the adjustments made to surface temperature data. Then lo and behold, the climategate email dump did nothing to aleviate suspicions that said data manipulations were suspect.

This is how climate scientists behave and respond to sceptics:

"climate scientist Tom Wigley of the University Corporation for Academic Research writes: “If you think that [Yale professor James] Saiers is in the greenhouse skeptics camp, then, if we can find documentary evidence of this, we could go through official AGU channels to get him ousted.”

Since then, multiple sceptical scientists around the world have been 'outed' and have lost their jobs at academic institutions.

This is the reality behind your much beloved climate science, it's founded on questionable practices, a clique of self promoting and backing authors who all talk on email back chanels and promote each others works - so much for 'peer review' - and run around like scared rabbits mass deleting compromising emails which contain evidence of them slandering and obstructing their critics; using activism to get them fired, where possible.

Climate 'science' is filthy to the core. It's no wonder scptics are a bit thin on the ground when so many lose their jobs or are warned off by the institutions that employ them.

Oh; look, now that we have managed to get all of our critics and sceptics fired, there's globabl unanimity in support of AGW among the scientists who still have jobs.

I think you're talking yourself into a state of mind. Our gas partners are reliable unlike the Russians. There are also campaigns in place to encourage reduced gas usage in EU countries and we should eventually follow suit in some form. Nobody can say whether we will have rolling cuts. TBH they are absolutely no big deal at all and we will get plenty of warning to get stocked up.

No we wouldn't. CNG storage would buy some time but only a few days How many CNG tanks would we need to guarantee supply if the pipelines are shut off for weeks. How much would that cost?

The kinsale gas storage facility was allowed to close under FG administration nothing to do with the greens. Why didn't you protest when that facility closed (for economic reasons)?

If Russia cuts of the gas, the country’s that depend on that gas will look for gas elsewhere which puts pressure on our own supply from our reliable sources.

It’s the energy minister who is responsible for Irelands energy security.

If we have a deficit of energy that falls on the head of the energy minister. Full stop.

Well, you insisted on dragging it in into the discussion and it does have a lot more data. How people feel about that conclusion is entirely up to them. There is a lot of belief in their forecasts. Someone claiming what will happen this winter is at best an alert.

Not entirely sure why you imagine I need to be on the receiving end of another one of your anti-Green rants. Very much a cherry picker of their policies myself, some eminently sensible, but many are locked into their ideology and beyond me and others.

As for the winter well we really don't know and you can call people fools, if you wish. We fools will deal with it but do make plans for yourself in anticipation. TBH this post looks like there is an "I told you fool so" coming this winter and feel free to do so but what would that say about you?!

So there's a 1.5% risk then