Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

I thought so!

I’ll let you get back to vilifying the locals ‘Jack’.

And we’re back to nonsensical rambling in an futile effort to land some kind of point.

It is good though that you acknowledge community spirit and are no doubt supportive of the local people, exercising their democratic right, to have a stake in the composition of their locality.

That’s a positive step ‘Jack’. Keep going like this and you’re inching towards a road to Damascus conversion.

All them 50 lads should be accommodated in tents. It's long past time we have the army set up standing camps for refugees & asylum seekers. Basic shelter & food is all that we need to provide.

Have you found those students the accommodation they are looking for Jack?

As I remember you said they can 'stay wherever they can find to stay'. That was good enough for them!

Are you going to put up all those refugees in your own community, beside where YOU live?

Thought not.

Instead you will write a stream of verbiage to make yourself feel good and so much better than others

For €200+ a week and no bills, free food etc.? I am sure some will take us up on the offer, yes.

The issue isn't if they will keep coming, it is that the government should stop taking them in now.

There is no shame in saying "sorry we are at full capacity",let us look after the refugees we have with dignity".

There’s a lot of shame in saying that to people who, as you already point out “our Government are making it too attractive for them”, when what they’re fleeing from, is horrendous. We’re not at full capacity or anything like it, and as for looking after the refugees we have with dignity, there’s no end of complaining that they’re being TOO well looked after. Sure isn’t that why they keep coming?

I’ve no doubt many would never have thought of fleeing from their homes in Ukraine and uprooting their lives had it not been for their country being invaded by Russia and the threats to their safety and the safety of their families, but having weighed up the risks of either staying or fleeing, they’re obviously more prepared to take their chances in Ireland than Ukraine.

It’s a completely different mindset, but still some people are convinced they’re only coming here to “take advantage of our generous welfare system”, as opposed to the idea that they wouldn’t come here at all if they actually had a choice in the matter, no different than the people they’d usually be complaining about who are “taking advantage of our generous welfare system” who those people are NOW complaining are being treated as second-class citizens who aren’t being treated with dignity.

There’s nothing to stop anyone complaining about people who they claim are being mistreated, from doing something to help those people, as opposed to just using those people to suggest our Government shouldn’t be helping refugees, while they’re doing nothing to help anyone else either.

I’m not talking btw about the people who do plenty to help other people, I’m talking about the people who do nothing, and complain about people “taking advantage of our generous welfare system”, and then use those people to argue against taking in more refugees who are also “only coming here to take advantage of our generous welfare system”. It’s nothing more than just using one group in society to argue that another group in society are a threat to them, when in reality neither group are a threat to anyone, and there is nothing stopping anyone from lobbying for more supports for the people they support, rather than accusing those same people of “taking advantage of our generous welfare system”.

ukranian people, will they keep coming ? Let’s see..

better weather,

free accommodation, no limit on its availability.

free first world healthcare, no limit on its availability.

free cash, with no limit on its availability.

thousands of miles from Vladimir and his mob

Almost limitless opportunity

often more accessible benefits and opportunities then the citizens here and every NGO and some politicians espousing their plight and wellbeing.. daily. ‘Plotiticians’ whom never made so much as half the effort for citizens here….

Yes we are. Full capacity reached a month ago. You continue to encourage the refugees to come here. That is your perogative. 

It is, just as it’s your prerogative to continue to claim the country is at “full capacity” when in reality there’s no such thing.

Facts: Mayor of Kiev has recalled his citizens.

Fact: limited number of properties available to rent on Daft. 771 total calculations.

If your retired pension fund lingered on this,you would have a different point of view. Sorry I'm in my early thirties and contributing to this state.

That’s you speaking on my behalf again, but no, I wouldn’t. I’d still have the same opinions as I do regardless of my arrangements for my retirement. There’s no need to apologise for being in your your early thirties and contributing to this State, I’m at least 10 years older than you and also contributing to this State. I wouldn’t argue that my lengthier tenure contributing to the State gives my opinion any more authority than yours though, as you appear to be attempting to do. I wouldn’t even attempt to argue my personal circumstances give my opinions any more authority than yours, because that’d be silly!

They are not fleeing from anything horrendous anymore. Did you miss one of my last posts?

The MAYOR of Kiev has recalled his citizens 

I didn’t miss any of your posts, your first post back on the thread was telling everyone that it’s safe to go home, they need to go home, you feel terrible for the newbies who are coming… it appears Ukrainians aren’t convinced, and they’re probably more attuned to what’s happening in their home country than you or I are!

Try Harder. If you were one of my employees I would sack you for being incompetent.

Dear God don’t flatter yourself. At least you can comfort yourself with the thought that you have a job in the morning, many Ukrainian refugees don’t even have that much!