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New Shops/Businesses in Bray

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    #2672
    SuperBowserWorld
    Registered Users Posts: 7,109 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119391961#Comment_119391961

    I dunno, with a bit of imagination, councils could make it easier, cheaper and less risky for enthusiastic and expert individuals to set up interesting shops and providing expert and tailored knowledge in these places.

    Fishing tackle shop someone mentioned, vinal records, retro gaming, electronic device repair, specialised pet shop, bike repair, book shops, clothes shops, comic book, remote hubs for working, yoga,



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    #2673
    murpho999
    Registered Users Posts: 28,476 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119393798#Comment_119393798

    Sorry but most of what you list is very niche and not really feasible. For example, a comic shop,that you mention already exists in Dundrum Shopping Centre which is a huge complex that attracts a large footfall from all over the country and Bray Central and the Main St will not attract that.

    it’s all very good come on here and list various businesses but the reality of doing it is very different. Anyhow Bray has many of the businesses you list.

    Finally, it’s not up to the council to make business less risky or to subsidise businesses. Businesses have to be viable on their own merits.



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    #2674
    SuperBowserWorld
    Registered Users Posts: 7,109 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119397081#Comment_119397081

    (Edit)

    Yes, Bray has a good selection of shops.

    When is the Cinema opening ?

    Post edited by SuperBowserWorld on


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    #2675
    Barnaboy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭Barnaboy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119397518#Comment_119397518

    Nobody has a clue. Radio silence from the operators.



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    #2676
    ssaannee1980
    Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭ssaannee1980


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119384929#Comment_119384929

    The Duggans new bar beside Box Burger/Catalyst is called GOLDIES... explains the 2 "Koi fish" which I now believe to be gold fish lol



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    #2677
    Creamy Goodness
    Registered Users Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119402905#Comment_119402905

    Hoping they do a nice food option.

    was down at the palm yesterday and was super disappointed. €10 for loaded skins which was basically centra like wedges (4-5 wedges) with tablespoon of mince and some scallion/tomato/white onion sprinkled on top.



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    #2678
    [Deleted User]
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    The discussion as to What should be in a town centre is going to be increasingly interesting.

    There will only be a set level demand for coffee shops, so councils will have to look at how they can look after the town. It’s not in a councils interest to have empty shops.

    More community spaces in town centres, group insurance schemes for sole business traders, zero council rate for new businesses (increasing over 3-5 years) and lower rates for non-chain stores.


    It really depends on what you see a councils job as. If you see a council as an entity that repairs pot holes and that’s that, you’ll never want “interference” from a council in how the town is run. But if you see a council as intrinsically important into the direction a town should take, you’ll welcome it.



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    #2679
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,065 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119406694#Comment_119406694

    Definitely. To be fair the council proactively decided the florentine site needed to be developed about 10/11 years ago and purchased it from developers sitting on it.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #2680
    Annasopra
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    Still no opening news on Bray Central

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #2681
    ssaannee1980
    Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭ssaannee1980


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119469569#Comment_119469569

    Not a peep. This is actually ridiculously funny at this stage. It also looks like theres never anyone onsite anymore, is the Stella still being worked on even??



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    #2682
    tea and coffee
    Registered Users Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭tea and coffee


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119408695#Comment_119408695

    Yes but that was after they proactively sold it for a song a decade or so previously. They bought it back for more than they sold it for.

    I wouldn't hold out any hope for BTC



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    #2683
    Lefty2Guns
    Registered Users Posts: 756 ✭✭✭Lefty2Guns


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119480046#Comment_119480046

    If you don't mind me asking, why not? When the site seems to be 95% complete.

    Be a different story if it wasn't constructed.



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    #2684
    tea and coffee
    Registered Users Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭tea and coffee


    Btc = Bray Town Council.

    As for the shopping centre, who knows.



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    #2685
    Lefty2Guns
    Registered Users Posts: 756 ✭✭✭Lefty2Guns


    Apologies, read that wrong.



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    #2686
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,065 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119480046#Comment_119480046

    The purchase price to buy it back was very low. I'm not so sure they did pay more than they sold it for. Have you more information about this?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #2687
    ssaannee1980
    Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭ssaannee1980


    Bray Town Council were asked on Twitter about the progress of Bray Central and why WOW, E&T and the cinema weren't open yet to which their response was "we have no further updates"... Doesn't leave us with much hope now, does it?



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    #2688
    murpho999
    Registered Users Posts: 28,476 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Clearly something has gone wrong but I think the responsibility lies more with Press Up Group rather than the council. The council just own the land and are the customer of Press Up from my understanding.

    Wonder what will happen as large store openings takes months of budgeting, planning and scheduling so I just can't see how the likes of Penneys or TK Maxx will be in there soon if ever.



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    #2689
    George White
    Registered Users Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭George White


    Are PressUP still looking for staff for Bray Central?

    Apparently, they'be been having trouble with some of their other developments.

    And yet they are trying to break the UK market with a hotel chain.



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    #2690
    murpho999
    Registered Users Posts: 28,476 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119486914#Comment_119486914

    Well all projects would be different and separate and we don't know what the issue with Bray is as no information is being released. Rumours of Irish Water connection issues but I just don't think they have any tenants.

    Walked by site last night and 2 small units on Main St are just empty shells with no sign of any work going on.



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    #2691
    2011
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    It dosen't look good.



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    #2692
    George White
    Registered Users Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭George White


    The thing is all the announced tenants were PressUp subsidiaries - DOolally, Wowburger, Elephant and Castle, Double 8, Stella, this bowling alley, etc.



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    #2693
    murpho999
    Registered Users Posts: 28,476 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119502548#Comment_119502548

    We have known that for a long time. The issue is no announcement on site of anchor tenants, other stores and/or an opening date.

    Post edited by murpho999 on


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    #2694
    Lefty2Guns
    Registered Users Posts: 756 ✭✭✭Lefty2Guns


    Passed by this morning and met a mate of mine going on to the site. He is working in the cinema/bowling alley at the moment.

    He said its still currently a Shell and Core at the moment but he said they have been slabbing walls etc.

    I asked did he have any idea of when it will be open, he said "maybe Christmas or the Summer time but I couldn't tell you what year".

    Only positive I can take from it, is that there is some construction work going on.



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    #2695
    murpho999
    Registered Users Posts: 28,476 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119503930#Comment_119503930

    Thanks for that , was he only talking about the cinema/bowling alley? As I thought I saw photos of Wowburger and other restaurants being fully kitted out?



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    #2696
    Lefty2Guns
    Registered Users Posts: 756 ✭✭✭Lefty2Guns


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119504130#Comment_119504130

    Ye, he was working in the cinema / bowling alley building..

    Wowburger and E&C are fully fitted out. I shared photos there a while back.



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    #2697
    ssaannee1980
    Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭ssaannee1980


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119504199#Comment_119504199

    I noticed this onsite activity today too! Good to see some movement but also - the cinema should have been opened by now lol.



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    #2698
    murpho999
    Registered Users Posts: 28,476 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Yes something is clearly wrong as the cinema was supposed to be a 6 month fit out and opening in August so how can it be an empty shell?

    The silence from Press Up and also Bray Council is very strange on this.



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    #2699
    Lefty2Guns
    Registered Users Posts: 756 ✭✭✭Lefty2Guns


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119504876#Comment_119504876

    No rush to fit it out if they can't open. Some construction work going on inside which is a positive.



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    #2700
    murpho999
    Registered Users Posts: 28,476 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119505984#Comment_119505984

    But why can’t they open?

    Also these projects are planned in advance and the workers are also busy and there’s normally not much flexibility in their schedules something has clearly gone wrong somewhere.



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    #2701
    Lefty2Guns
    Registered Users Posts: 756 ✭✭✭Lefty2Guns


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119506917#Comment_119506917

    Thats the million dollar question, isn't it?



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