Oleksandr Usyk v Anthony Joshua 2 - August 20th

He was never going to actually win the fight I agree but he was factually winning the fight at the start of the 8th round

Both things are correct

Like Kell Brook was ahead against GGG/ Khan ahead against Canelo.(If memory serves me right)

AJ v Frank Bruno.

Who wins.

Yeah I have noticed that and it infuriates me. And now he has told me to not engage with him. Luckily for me I dont engage with people of limited mental capabilities that live their life on the internet with title of "internet pro"

And he hasnt really concocted the loss. He has rambled enough so he can go back and say that he was partly right

You engaged me. I responded to your baiting and then you said you don’t need to engage me.

Now you’re back on having a dig at my “limited mental capabilities.”

Is all ok with you? Why the need to be hostile /belittling when engaging?

Lads no need to be arguing ,

Look boxing is all about opinions & sometimes the experts of the professional game get things completely wrong, So i don't expect any of us to always be bang on the money ,

Personally iv always enjoyed this thread for the diversity in opinion, mkes you think what are other seeing that im not,

Out of interest how many of us predicted Usyk on points , i had said Usyk in 11

Ok, let's look forward to the craic, afterwards. No need for either us to be getting ratty. Let's hope they do actually fight now.

Fight pick for Usyk-AJ? Usyk mid to late rds

Usyk-Fury before Usyk won the other night? I was 50-50, as my posts from the past alluded to

From what I seen of Usyk on Saturday, I am now swayed to side with him. I was very impressed with him Saturday

Only real area of concern was he wasn't landing heavy shots, and AJ never looked really hurt. He may need more spite on his shots vs. Fury

Same as myself really ,

Although i though Saturday showed all the reasons why Fury will beat Usyk ,

AJ done a lot better (still lost easy) but he has no where near the fight IQ of Fury ,

I massive problem for AJ is how well he does all the basic's , It sounds mad to say a strength of his is a problem but hear me out ,He does everything to a tee, box's very simplistic , very rigid , he fights very purposely , which is what got him the belts , Doing all the basics brilliantly and with his power blows away 90% of the heavy weight division , but it was way to easy for Usyk to read,

I think Usyk will find it difficulty to read Fury & will also struggle to hurt him, on top of that he can't bank on Furys gas tank packing in like AJ's

I really do see Usyk trying to start fast but find it difficult to hit Fury without being tagged back, Eventually Fury will start to nail him to the canvas & stop Usyk late on ,

i think Fury has the ability to make the fight a mess and lean all over Usyk

People wanted AJ to do that but he can't he never could ,

Wilder-Usyk would be a fun fight, and not a foregone conclusion. That raw power is stll there, as well as those long arms.

Ha you could throw a fistful of rice at the fcuker and still not hit him!

Without a shadow of a doubt. He’s probably a better boxer now but not more effective. I think he lost a lot of his heart in the Wlad fight and he hasn’t had the same belief since. All was going rosy with Ruiz and then he got run over and that shattered his confidence when he realised his powers of recovery and ability to take shots is very poor comparative to other areas. Joshua was ok looking as a come forward guy against pure turkeys like Skelton, Love or Cornish then he could box a little and be come forward against an unfit brawler like Whyte. When he’s met something like the real thing he’s been found out. On that evidence Fury would hand him his ass and he’d be a great option for Wilder.

When fighting a guy like Usyk you need to keep him busy if you do not your in trouble,

Do recall when he fought Bellew , Bellew was up on the cards but absolute nackered because Bellew had NO choice but to throw more shots than he wanted to,

You HAVE to pump out the jab to try keep him out of his rhythm , If not he closes distance on you and lands hard shots & is gone again,

Look at the jabs AJ is throwing there is nothing behind them ,they are not designed to land hard but to keep Usyk honest ,

These are little things that make a huge differences ,

Think about it logically, if you only throw when you are 100% it will land who do you think wins the man with the slower hands & feet or the man with the quicker hands & feet, AJ HAD to throw feints, dummy & set ups ,to disrupt Usyk

I don't see that happing,

Remember 2 weeks ago Fury was trying to fight Del boy , i think that was simply to get a fight in to be sharp ,

I reckon he knew Usyk would win & knows he will need to be sharp & have his timing down hence why he wanted another outing even if its a gimme

I don't think Tyson will fight if its a long time away

I meant it'll take place in Dec no later ,

I think it'll be this year

And if its next year Fury will fight in between

One thing I recall from the vlad fight was aj appeared out on his feet for a few rounds and managed to somehow recover and go on and win

Yes, definitely do-able alright.

Just with the current pro climate and promotions and bickering and all the silly red tape that comes with these big fights....

Plus, Usyk might wanna strike while the iron is hot. Maybe he feels since Fury's last fight that Fury has been doing eff all training, and that he is now in fighting shape and with a few weeks off he is ready to jump straight back into camp.