Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

The dribble through lines part.

It's not really part of Fab or Hendo's game.

Thiago could pass throught those lines

Elliott was trying to run through the lines the last two games however he is stuck more out on the right.

The midfeilders have rarely done that under Klopp, Matip was the one player that broke throught the lines centrally from deep and opened up space.

Matip & Thiago are hugely missed from this team for that reason.

You what the most galling part of last night was, United weren't even that good, we could of snatched a draw with a small bit more effort. Near our best we would of blown them away

You yourself said we were in a title race just before the game last night! Now you're saying anyone who thought we were in a title race before last night needs their head examined. Do you need your head examined?

Think last season has shown us that there's no point writing anything off after 3 games. It's a sliding scale, not a definite yay or nay. Our title ambitions are a little dented after last night, but no more than that. Think we need to wait at least 10 games so actually get a sense of how things are looking (and even then, i'd never write us off if we're within 10 points).

Things can go a bit pear shaped very quickly - but as we've seen in the past from this team, things can click back into gear just as quickly.

Genuine question but is Calvin Ramsey ok,

No word on his injury or even any pictures of him about Melwood or Anfield,

Hope the lads just got the head down and working on getting fit

Djibri Cisse's son is part of the Wales u16 squad tonight.

There's actually also a few ex professional footballer's kids playing for the Liverpool academy this year too - Bobby Clark ( Lee Clark), Jayden Danns ( Neil Danns), Lewis Koumas ( Jason Koumas) & Keyrol Figueroa ( Maynor Figueroa ).

Hindsight is great, but not that great😎

The whole age thing is a bit of nonsense really

Fba, Konate, Jota, Nunez, Keita all in there 20's could have started because they are injured,

Salah , VVD, Thaigo age has not effected them

Hendo ,Milner, Firmino are our only players that age is a concern with right now & two of them are probably 3rd choice in there positions

Imagine that game Monday & United had Maguire (Matip) , Martinez (Konate) , McTommiay (keita) ,Bruno (Thaigo) , Martial (Nunez) ,Rashford (Jota) all injured & Eriksen (Fab) not fit to start

Along with 4 more from the bench unavailable , Ox,Jones,Ramsey,Kellher,

He arrived injured with something the medical team did not pick up on, I remember Klopp saying he needed to get that sorted before he starts...

Never expanded on what the issue was though

It seems very odd that was mid June & its now the end of August and he is still not even training ,

How could you miss that ?

Yeah agreed. The succession planning in the midfield had been pretty poor and the midfield now mostly consists of players at both ends of their careers. Elliott, Carvalho & Jones are all between 19-21 and even then it remains to be seen if they are midfielders/of the quality needed. There was higher hopes for Ox & Keita when they were signed but their bodies just can't keep fit which had thrown those plans out. If Keita stayed fit, I'm sure he would be getting a run of games now and we might not even be having this conversation in the same panicy tone.

To be fair, the succession planning in the attack and defence is going pretty well, on paper at the least. The plan is in place at CB with Konate, RB with Bradley and then Diaz/Nunez/Jota in attack. Possibly even Gordon too.

It's clear that the club wanted Tchouhameni this summer. 22. Perfect age to be brought into the league and ready to really explode at 23/24 for a few years. His energy would inject now life and legs into the midfield. They really need a midfielder of this profile this summer, and again next summer. Realistically we are only getting 2 more years of Thiago & maybe 3 of Hendo if he moves to the squad player role in time. Fabinho not long more than that.

Caicedo is the name I see linked alot lately, Brighton would kill us on the price though even if they agreed to sell. I'd prefer someone more experienced but definitely the right type of player we need.

We would of won a 2nd league in 20/21 if the investment was made in CB when needed, we didn't, the season collapsed as we had no centre backs although the VVD injury was desperately unlucky. We were 7 points ahead of City at the turn of the year then, city finished on 86 points so were below par and cruised to another league without any challenge.

Think he has 3or4 years left on his contract and is only 20... Brighton would look for 75m plus and that's not going to happen.

Above was taken from Reddit and looks to be direct from Transfermarket.

Twitter thread here.

To no surprise, the owners have been leaning heavily on Klopp's brilliance as a manager (and perhaps his reluctance to panic buy) but I suspect once the stadium is done there should be a lot more to spend. We could see a very different transfer policy then. Might be a bit too late by then though...

Lies, damned lies and statistics. If they are using Transfermarkt then someone coming in from the Academy would count as a new signing. Or someone who was on loan and returned would count as a new signing. I see much like we were all experts in linguistics with the Suarez and Evra ordeal, we are now all experts on finances and where we spend our money as well, according to the twitter threads linked. I prefer to stick to Swiss Ramble for any financial discussions about a clubs accounts. Here are a couple of their threads involving us,

This is from 2020 and leads up to us building a great squad.

This is our latest results I believe. And here is an interesting thread comparing us with United that was done just a few days ago,

I think they are better to get a fair view of our finances, not fans who may have an agenda. This includes both sides, both the pro-FSG and anti-FSG as well.

In 2018, when Leon Goretzka decided to move to Bayern Munich instead of Liverpool, the club immediately moved for Fabinho - it was seamless. Last summer, after Klopp failed to convince Florian Neuhaus (24) to leave Borussia Monchengladbach no alternative was targeted as far as we are aware. This summer there was no move for an alternative to Tchouameni. The change in approach is our undoing.

I don't think it's the case that money hasn't been available, those responsible for recruitment are only interested in signing what is considered the right player and that is ultimately under the control of Klopp. He has repeatedly demonstrated that he is willing to do without a player for a position if a player he wants to work with isn't available. Edwards and the analytics team having to convince him to sanction a transfer for Salah rather than wait another year in the hope that Julian Brandt would be willing to move after the 2018 World Cup is the best example of this.

We don't require three world beaters in midfield but Klopp's "You tell me who's available that is better than who we have" when questioned about replacing Wijnaldum suggests that it's only a very high calibre player that he is looking for. I personally wonder if there is a unwillingness amongst the staff to push Klopp to sign a player that doesn't quite measure up but could fill in and do a job.

The team is suffering because we lack energy and intensity in midfield at present and that makes us easy to play against. It has been highlighted on Twitter how similar three of the goals the team have conceded have been.