Guinness Surger

Hadn't bought any cans in a few weeks was drinking spirits at home instead but taught id get 6 pack of the nitro cans for the weekend.

Had three today all **** muck. Every one of them was flat with this horrible sour mank taste. I was not having this issue when these cans were first released more often than not you were getting a great pint from the nitros and something just as good from the normal cans via the pin method. I've changed glass I've cleaned them I dunno how many different ways it's a joke at this stage and I'm done buying them for a good while at least in the hope they might hopefully improve. Never have I ever fucked half a pint down the sink until tonight! If only I could get to a decent pub more often ffs.

TBH I find them good, glass needs to be just washed in hot water, unit clean and fully charged.

Can anyone explain how a nitrosurge can without a widget costs a lot more than a nitrogen-charged can with a widget...?

Also production numbers would be significantly lower, meaning a higher unit cost. But as above, price gouging would be the biggest factor I suspect.

some of it is because there's 568ml in the surger cans, and 500ml in the normal widget cans

8 x 500ml widget cans / 6 x 568ml surger cans are both €15 in tesco currently - the 6 pack of surgers is the equivalent of 6.8 normal cans

sometimes the 8 packs go on sale, but i've never seen the surger cans on offer on their own

Same, the Beamish are noticeably better, I've switched over completely the last few months (and I'd be a Guinness person so no sort of inherent prejudice). Lidl has the four pack reduced every few weeks too.

The Beamish has way more air (nitrogen?) in them though and takes an age to release with the pin, even when you think it's empty there's still a bit left!