Teachers working over summer

lol 🤣🤣🤣

What free labour?

The salary they get is for the job they currently do, with the time off very well known to be part of the entire deal. Increasing the working hours by a significant amount would not happen without a commensurate increase in salary.

Would you take a 15-20% increase in your hours for no increase in salary?

I never understood this saying. It's the definition of childcare. They care for children during school hours. They are responsible for children during school hours. In what way is it not childcare.

The OP is nonsense. The salary teachers get is for the work they currently do. If you make them work during the summer then you need to up their salary.

We'd need 30 ambulances if I had to supervise 30 kids.

Sounds like the existing July provision, but open to all kids not just ones with special needs.

Not bad idea: better than having kids roaming unsupervised over summer.

But it would cost a lot to hire the extra teachers needed.

The cash might be better spent on building and running overnight dormitories for the kids whose parents aren't able to provide them with a good night's sleep (since we already have free meals for kids whose parents don't feed them).

Did you mean "Discuss"?

So you'd let some live then? 🤣🤣

OP- I think the mistake you are making is that teachers are paid for 12 months of work. They are not. It's 8 months pay, but split over 12 months.

If you want more work from teachers you'll need to pay them more....and a lot have a summer side gig too.

Schooling is the provision of education with a responsibility on the teaching staff of 'in loco parentis.'

Childcare, is the provision of enough food, warmth and engaging stimulation for a child and seeing that they are safe, for a particular span of time.

So, no, school is not childcare. Teachers are not childminders or crèche workers.

As for the notion of forcing them to work over summer; like any job, people go into a profession with their eyes open, with the pros and cons clear, the conditions well known and the requirements and eligibility set down. I suggest if people are jealous or in other ways begrudging of teacher's lives, then they should knuckle down and pursue the relevant graduate degree and post-grad qualifications and walk a few years in their shoes.

You. Its you op.

I'd fancy the idea that teachers should sit recertifications in their subjects every summer. It's crazy how little accountable teachers are for keeping up to date , for how much of a role in society they should have.

I had a lot of teachers that couldn't get a C in the leaving cert in subject they taught. A lot of people teaching kids have laid their brains to rest for 20-30 years and have zero investment in the subject. Those are terrible role models.

If you can't beat them, join them. So why don't you? What is stopping you from becoming a teacher?

would you believe if I said that was the easy part ,having to deal with 30 kids parents that is where the real fun is

Edgy.

absolutely correct.

9 to (it's a lot more then 3) is quite a long day when you have to look after children of all sorts and abilities, and then do all of the after school work surrounding the next days lessons and correcting homework etc.

as i said, i wouldn't get into teaching no matter how much i was paid to do so.

maybe those that start threads on the internets criticising professions should be made do them for a while, just to see how 'easy' they are!!!

'wean out the teachers in it for the holidays', fcuking hell!!