What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

The reason I state that this notion of 'housing our own' is a redundant concept in a global society.

This "global society" you speak of regarding multiculturalism is not nearly so global. Indeed it's a remarkably narrow one. The concept and the concept of "multiculturalism" is almost entirely confined to parts of Western Europe and ex Western European colonies in the New World and the latter who ended up with multiculturalism by virtue of history are all tightening up their criteria for entry and have been for years. Within Western Europe among those who've had to deal with this multicultural politic for generations they're also tightening up their criteria for entry. Even a huge shift like Brexit would have likely not passed if immigration wasn't a factor. Among those nations living with this social and political experiment for longer they're more likely to cry Halt. If it was such a boon one would be forgiven for thinking they'd want more, not less of this boon? Ireland as usual late to the game with multiculturalism is also late to the game in dealing with it and the problems that come from it. But we'll get there soon enough.

Humans are much more intelligent creatures than we give them credit for

Then why do so many insist on repeating the same mistakes as others thinking somehow, this time, it will be different? Again please point out one example of Western "multiculturalism" where the exact same social, economic and demographic trends are not seen. If this was such a solid politic and philosophy surely it would be easy to point to a success?

Irish culture being eroded? - Those Normans, Vikings and British people giving us their roads, legal system and education!

It's been a while since we saw this old fave of the multiculturalist argument. For a start they weren't required to bring roads, our legal system, or education. We had roads here and long ones before Rome was even a village, our legal system was based on existing Brehon law and education and later laws came from the Roman world and notably it didn't need thousands of Italians coming here to bring it. We absorb a huge amount of American culture and lattery political thinking, even language/accent shifts, yet how many Americans live here? A couple of thousand?

Secondly, and I do love how the multiculturalists miss this and the rainbow of ironies within; those listed were invaders and colonisers and often murderous ones that kicked the hell out of the local culture. I hate to break it to them, but Monty Python's what did the Romans ever do for us? while funny is wildly innaccurate on virtually every single point and can easily be argued sniffs of old style British public schoolboy imperialism(though it could be far more applied to Roman Britain).

That's always absent from the narrative of "multiculturalism". One would think with the EU having different zones of lower employment and others in need of workers and having free movement within the EU community that this would be more in play.

But multiculturalism has almost nada to do with economics or workers directly. That's almost entirely after the factism. Multiculturalism as a concept is a reactive politic. Originally in nations like the US where history and the very make up of the nation meant they had to deal with it and "diversity" and "multiculturalism" was a way to try and paper over the cracks in their history and current situation. More latterly in post war Europe where old empires that had fallen had to deal with the influx from their own ex colonies and they had to deal with it in similar ways. More latterly again with the large influx over the last decade into Europe. Ireland didn't have to deal with it because we didn't have an empire and were economically tiny so vanishingly few wanted to be "new Irish" back in the day.

Nobody has suggested otherwise, of course we can grow our own, so why import more and different, seemingly intractable problems that are found in every single so called multicultural nation in Europe(and the West)? Again please point out one example of Western "multiculturalism" where the exact same social, economic and demographic trends are not seen developing over time.

Now we can argue until the cows come home why these trends are consistently seen, but the facts remain they are seen and out of all the different multicultural nations, with all their different histories, timescales, cultures, politics, social programmes and geography, none of them seem to be able to change these trends.

Apparently Ireland will be different, this time. What's that quote about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?

I suppose it's also down to what "foreign" means. Do they mean not Black? I suspect so.

Unlike Ireland Nigeria doesn't automatically confer citizenship just because someone is born there. From what I recall one parent has to be Nigerian and have a grandparent from one of the indigenous ethnic groups. Here you can rock up from Mars and through various routes after a while get a piece of paper that automatically makes you Irish and woe betide anyone who suggests that might not be quite the case.

Again I would say it's this "multicultural" influence from the US(and some other ex New World colonies), a nation where the very mechanism of its culture and history means you can become American. To a lesser extent Britain and France had that with their empires and their once subjects, though in the case of Britain it had more to do with their ex pats and colonists being seen and regarding themselves as "British" even if off swanning about the Raj getting malaria and shooting tigers, rather than their indigenous subjects.

Becoming Irish didn't have any of that in historical and cultural terms. It's an imported idea and a recent one. About the only similarity would be those among the ex colony's diaspora, especially in America where the diaspora laid claim to being Irish, and it's not so long ago they and that claim were usually laughed out of it and often still are. Mind you except when it came to adding numbers to our soccer team. You can kick a ball with skill and force eh? I gather you had an Irish Setter as a child. Welcome! 😁

The only other example that springs to mind was the medieval "more irish than the irish themselves" around the Norman conquerers, though that was more a dig by their English cousins than anything like a compliment. The same English cousins who much did the same, though more through marriages to "locals" to consolidate power rather than taking up local culture, customs and language, at least at first(it took a fair few generations of Norman royalty before any of them even spoke English as their first language. That so "English" of kings Richard the Lionheart could barely string a sentence together in the language), just like the Normans did in France and Italy.