Heavyweight Boxing

I’m going with Parker and Ortiz for upsets at HW for their bouts.

There seems to be some myth about Wilder’s gas tank. In his last fight he was out on his feet after 4 rds.

Yes, he hung on, but he was exhausted all the way to the end. I’d like to see a fight where he showed a solid gas tank? Where he was fresh and fluid and composed while under pressure in a high paced fight…

Maybe vs Ortiz a few years ago he was, but other than this I am not seeing a great tank.

I saw that. Seems too good to be true..

Yep, good call imo.

Not saying his tank is poor, but folks implying it's brilliant. It absoluetly is NOT. He was banjoed in fight 2 and 3 vs. Fury. Tired early and exhausted and hanging on

I asked when (in a fast paced fight) has he looked fresh, composed and fluid? Only v Ortiz (which wasn't manic) did he appear to show good stamina.

So, looking fresh and fine in fights that you are clearly in control doesn't equal having this amazing gas tank. It's when you are under pressure in a high paced fight that your gas tank is proven, or not proven.

Stiverne fights not at all count here....

Hanging on and looking vey ragged and tired does not indicate that you have an amazing gas tank!

His gas tank goes on forever was what I responded to. I kind of took that to mean he has a great gas tank.

I don’t think he has. Only Fury really put him under pressure in the theee fights (more so fights 2 and 3) and both times he was exhausted.

I’d be looking at the likes a Usyk, and even Fury as HWs with reliable and solid gas tanks.

But at the same time the only time he has looked tired is the 2 times he took a hell of a beating,

Now I'm no genius but i reckon the hell of the beating was the problem and not his gas tank ,

In Fury 1 his corner pulled him out, in Fury 2 her just kept going, I think that indicates a good gas tank he never quit & he kept fighting ,

Personally I think its incorrect label Wilder as not having a reliable or solid gas tank ,

He wasn't just banjoed after a few rounds though was he, He was getting absolutely pasted that why he looked tired,

He's had 45 fights and he been exhausted in 2 , only because there the 2 he got the crap beat of of him,

So lets say he stayed down the first time in both them fights & never got up , Would you then you'd say he has a good gas tank ?? because you would have zero fights where he looked tired ?

He was fine for 12 in Fury 1 & against even Ortiz he was dropped hard and still was fine ,

For example we are yet to see Usyk take multiple real big shots, so if Fury lands heavy on him early multiple times & Usyk somehow stumbles through 5 or 6 rounds to reach the final bell will you call his gas tank poor ?

contract offer and proof of funds doesnt take long to organise considering they are talking about a December fight date, he is probably just bored and wants to start training while netflix are around filming

Wilder was already knocked down and taking big shots in round 3 And round 4 and 5 he was grand,

Wilder was drugged and wore a heavy suit in fight 2 so what do you expect :) , Joking ,

Yes. Heart to keep up. But from very early he was blowing hard and was exhausted.

I did laugh out loud at the part where he replied to the presenter when he asked that he really wanted 500 mill from the Saudis.

'Sure they offered that tiger woods fella a billion recently'

And 'so you'll fight him in Saudi, on Dec 17th if the moneys there?'

I'll paste him in his front garden in Ukraine if the moneys there 😀

If fury fights usyk and beats him there is nothing left for him to do, regardless of what you think of what’s around him he has to be an all time great heavyweight

I wasn't a fan I wilder before the fights. He was exciting of course, but a complete dick. After the 3 fights, even though he was out classed comprehensively he showed incredible heard. Absolutely never-say-die attitude which I very much admire about him.

he sure knows how to create a buzz around a fight, even eddie said it would be great to promote him at one stage because he makes it so easy

between him and mcgregor they can sell tickets to anything

as for the 500m thats just bluster to try and get the highest offer on the table to make it the biggest fight he can and who can blame him, heavyweight undisputed is a massive deal

When Fury beat Klitschko he became number one. Didn’t rematch him, got banned for drugs and had mental health issues so AJ and Wilder had claims to be number 1 during that time as Fury was not fighting or defending belts.

Its only since he beat Wilder in the second fight that he reclaimed the number 1 spot.

So how long is his reign as number 1? 2 years?

Hes got to do more.

He went to a 10 year undefeated streak champions back yard and beat him

Took 2 years off made an absolute mess of himself then came back went to a 40 (39 kos) - 0 WBC champion back yard & beat him,

Not bad is it

That date/timing sounds about right. Early February.