Ukraine (Mod Note & Threadbanned Users in OP)

So the leadership of the Third Reich is blameless?

That argument's not gonna fly anywhere

Best wishes to all Ukrainians on their independence day.

I really don't see Russia letting Crimea fall back into Ukrainian hands.

They'd throw everything they have at that not happening. You'd sooner take the Donbas back than that.

Its all well and good that they intend to take it back - but practically how will they do it?

At the minute they are losing territory in Nikolaev/Kherson front that they previously recaptured, and the Donbass front is a near stalemate

Reports coming out that the Russians have taken the nuclear plant off of the Ukrainian grid.

If true then that's a serious change of events, if we start facing a catastrophic event, I wonder would NATO would view this as an attack?

Unrecognised russian held territory.

I'm guessing they want to scare the west as much as possible and probably "retaliation" for the bombing in Moscow.

If something goes wrong, it's not like we will be the only ones to suffer so the only game I see here is to destroy Ukraine as much as possible.

It's not like the west could help fix that.

Apologies for the delay in responding. I was banned last week for not responding in time which apparently is troll behavour. I will now only post when I have the time to respond.

"Why is Russia using a nuclear plant as a military launch pad for attacks? Russia are shelling nuclear fuel storage plants in the complex.Ukraine has said Russian shells landed close to where radioactive material is stored"

That's not proof odyssey. As you always do you are using a biased source as evidence and then go on with the delusion that you have refuted an argument. You haven't and you never do. How does a link to an article from a pro western media source quoting a Ukrainian state employee prove that the Russians are shelling their own soldiers in a plant that they have occupied for months? You know it doesn't. They have no motive to do it. What do they have to gain by doing it? If there are vehicles with Z on them at the plant they are obviously there to protect the plant from sabotage. If Ukraine held the territory they would do the same. Thankfully the UN are arriving this week to put this ridiculous claim to bed. Hopefully.

"The Russian Ministry of Defense claimed that their forces no longer use Tochka-U missiles. However, Amnesty International, the investigative journalists of the Conflict Intelligence Team etc etc"

Both of these sources are biased. Amnesty International and HRW have from the start of the war been Anti Russia. Amnestys head office is based in London whilst HRW is based in New York. When the foot soldiers of Amnesty in Ukraine tried to report on the Ukrainian army committing war crimes by using civilians as human shields the Chief Executive Oksana Pokalchuk immediately resigned saying the report ‘became a tool of Russian propaganda.’ She had failed to suppress the truth and so had to go. The Conflict Intelligence Team has, along with Bellingcat and its open source partners, been pushing western security narratives for almost a decade now. They are in no way independent. But even they admit that the rockets position indicates that it came from the South East.

"The photo of the wreckage clearly shows the rocket part of the "Tochka U". Photographs and videos show that the rocket part faces the northeast, which means that the missile may have arrived from the west, southwest or south". https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/04/8/7338164/

Being the CIT they then go on to explain this uncomfortable scientific fact and blame this on the Russians by saying it could have been fired from a sliver of territory in the South that was just inside the 120km radius that Russia controlled at the time. First of all Russia stopped using Tochka's and replaced them with Iskanders for the very reason that the Tochka's accuracy was abysmal. Particularly at the full 120km range limit. There is not one piece of video evidence of a Tochka U missile being fired or transported by the Russians. What there is video evidence of is the Baz-5937 Transporters that were used. No missiles are on view. They are used for a number of things as this article from way back in 2012 states:

"one self-propelled floating chassis (combat vehicle) of all combat vehicles, including radar stations and a launcher with missiles, and means of communication, navigation and toporavizka, control, as well as power supplies." https://en.topwar.ru/1174-baz-5937-plavayushhee-kolesnoe-shassi.html

There are countless reports of Ukraine using Tochkas at that time as it was all they had before the training in western missile launching happened. They had the smoking gun and the motive. To prevent donbass civilians fleeing the area in order to keep them as human shields and to get more weaponry from the west. It was a week after the Bucha incident which was a huge PR gamechanger for the Ukrainians. They realised that anything they said the West would believe and support. Which they duly did.

I gave an example of what happens when they're probably decent workers dare to not push the western narrative. Rest assured you will not hear another report like the one that caused the CEO to resign.

"When the foot soldiers of Amnesty in Ukraine tried to report on the Ukrainian army committing war crimes by using civilians as human shields the Chief Executive Oksana Pokalchuk immediately resigned saying the report ‘became a tool of Russian propaganda.’ She had failed to suppress the truth and so had to go."

And in relation to Human Rights Watch read this from the history section of their Wiki page:

"Human Rights Watch was co-founded ....as a private American NGO in 1978, under the name Helsinki Watch, to monitor the then-Soviet Union's compliance with the Helsinki Accords." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Rights_Watch

Its a relic from the cold war still pursuing the same Russophobic agenda.

The management of these organisations are all part of the same Washington & European establishment.

I cant find this speech anywhere from yesterday. No doubt its true. Its gone too far for peace negotiations now. Could you post link though please?

Russia and Belarus have spent 2 decades sending agents into the EU to murder people in UK Germany and Czech republic, bomb factories, hijack Irish planes to kidnap passengers. They used Irish universities to create deep cover for an agent trying to enter the international criminal court offices in The Netherlands. Those murderers and spies used the VISA arrangements between the EU and Russia to commit these murders and crimes. The Visa arrangements should have been cancelled long ago, years before the war in Ukraine to safeguard EU citizens.