New Acres scheme

Is this just speculation or is there somewhere one can get a look at these marking schemes??

Twisted oul logic they so often come up with, appears to be a backwards step of a scheme from a buy in from farmer's view.

Maybe its the man on the bicycle , over influence on this one, he seems well meaning, though a dreamer, god bless him.

It won’t cover the price hike in electricity prices just announced.

Can you not make the ringfort into its own parcel for the scheme no?

Think there are two extensive grazing, one is without inspection/marking at 200/ha, other one is with marking and goes from 200 to 400 /ha so if you get zero you wont be any worse off at 200, but if you get 10 you get 400. Just my reading of it.

To get that 400e is ridiculous requirements. I was at the info day & you need to be a gardener to grow the flowers needed for top marks. I was showing my father the list of flowers your marked on & he laughed as he said I'd need to drop to minimal stock numbers & block the old drainage that my grandfather put in!

Father was never being in GLAS and this scheme isn't exactly spiking any interest either. I'd rather put my time into running a couple more sucklers as punishment

Any ideas what the planners will charge?

is A planner compulsory? Or dependant on doing different actions ?

Reading the journal this week wouldn't inspire too many to join. They certainly couldn't be accused of overselling it.

They said you can get the same payment as glas with more cost and effort than glas.

They also said you need to do the sums and work out if the payment is worth it after costs.

Do you need to plant 100 trees to have a good chance of getting in instead of the WBC. 100 trees is a lot, I assume this isn't intended as 100 trees to make a hedgerow.

What genius thought up the idea that you cant plant trees in the same parcel where you have WBC??

Just say your land parcel is very large and the 2 actions are a kilometre apart?

It makes no sense...they are actually making it as awkward as fùck to plant trees....

Cant plant trees within 60 metres of dwelling house, cant plant near esb lines, cant plant near ringforts.....

I want to plant but I cant plant anywhere that would suit my farm.....

Do they want to help the environment or what??.....serious gobshìtes in DAFM...

What is the logic behind not being allowed to do certain actions in the same land parcel??

Ya it is hassle but if you spend the first years payment you'll get four more back. If you have 1euro in the bank in five years it will be worth 80cent. The payments are poor though. If you put some land into low input grazing will that be taken out of your fertilizer limit when it comes in? That would be a bigger worry

That’s my reading on the situation as well. Lads could very easily end up with next to nothing after all the work is done and the advisor fees are paid.

My thinking would be the best thing for this scheme is if no one at all were to apply for it. They’d have to come up with something a bit more enticing then.

Really debating whether to go for this. Am renting a small place that doesn't really break even so have always been in reps , and GLAS as its the only way of getting a few euro. Had intended joining this as its the only scheme available regardless of its limitations, and with the thinking i have to be in some scheme as i always have and class the money as something you get every year such as BPS. However after talking to my planner last week i have serious doubts. I was getting 1900 a year in GLAS and if i was to base the new scheme payment as the same amount, i used to give my planner 200 euro a year to do the GLAS and BPS application and all that stuff, but if he is have to be coming out now doing checks on fields how much more will his fee rise to, 400 or more....that would leave 1500 and as i am a PAYE working on the high rate of tax you could be paying 40% tax on whatevers left. My only realoption it seems to get anyways decent payment is the WBC but whereas before you just have to sow it and have proof with receipts for seed and the likes, now in the ACRES it has to grow or you will get no payment. Just think for the hassle the few euro isn't worth. The hectare and a half thats now in WBC, and i would have to put into WBC again if i reseeded it and got 2 cuts of silage off it and even sold the bales for a couple of euro profit and put 30 store lambs on it for 4/5 months would surely leave as much with nearly less hassle.