Heard it this morning.

That Carmody lad has convinced me I'm nothing but a blood thirsty murderer of poor birds and animals. I'm gonna sell me guns, run naked in the fields and hug trees from now on.......Am I feck !!!!!!!

Carmody would make your teeth itch ! Some drivel. Does anyone actually take him seriously?

The lad on for hunting was crap too.

Statement from NARGC was decent.

Not being lazy but couldn't listen to pat Kenny or newstalk as I'd prefer to chew on my dogs tail as I find both unbearable.

Do you have a quick rundown of episode.

I assume the person against hunting and the the people who agree are also against the rounding up of livestock who are then put in holding pens till they are stunned or shot in the head with a bolt before being hung up and having their throat cut to bleed out.Also they should hate the thought of millions of fish being hunted across the vast oceans and then hauled aboard to die a slow death.

I don't know why anybody bothers arguing on the side of hunting as it's a lost cause as most people who eat meat believe there food died a beautiful and dignified death whereas the deer shot on a hill died in terror and stress.

I remember him writing letters to the papers spouting the same old nonsense as far back as the 70's!!

I remember him writing letters to the papers spouting the same old nonsense as far back as the 70's!!

There are two John Carmodys in the Irish animal rights scene.One from Limerick and one from Waterford.

This was "streaker" Carmody as he was known up in Limerick. He ran another "phone box membership"[IE they could hold the AGM in a phone box someplace] anti-organisation called Animal Rights Action Network [ARAN]. Which oddly had a lot of young ladies as members.As how he got this title as he liked to strip down to the Speedos and get covered in fake blood with one or more of these models and wrap up in clear PVC and pretend they were wrapped meet lying on Cruises st to demonstrate against animal slaughter. He left Limerick under a bit of a cloud, apparently, one of his "models" wasn't quite old enough to be getting her kit off in public and doing weird stuff with an adult male...Or so the word on the street was at the time.

The other Carmody is from Waterford and has been on the scene longer. He is more militant and has some form for assault and obstruction,which he got by getting lippy with a Garda at a Stephens day hunt meet in Tramore, Waterford about 20 years ago and is a pal of the great letter writer of Callan, Co Kilkenny, John Fitzgerald,he of Campaign to Abolish Cruel Sports [CACS], another phone box membership group. John Fitz has been scribbling letters to the press since the early 1980s.

Interesting lad our John Fitz in Callan.Was fired from his job in the Co-op in Callan because, according to him,he was fitted up for damaging a coursing venue in Glin, Co Limerick and down in Kilkenny,and for possessing "bomb-making materials" When AGS raided his house in Callan. He threw a satchel of incriminating info out a window which literally landed at a Garda's feet! He got away by the skin of his teeth from being convicted by a faux pas in the court in Limerick in the 1980s. One of the witnesses went and had a chat in an interval with his old pal on the jury. Which was seen by Johns's defence lawyer, who successfully had the trial declared null and void because of that incident. You can read his version in his book Bad Hare days"[for free on Amazon Kindle!It's that bad!]

Ironic,both he and Waterford John Carmody were both PROs for the Irish Council Against Bloodsports[ICABS] in the 80s and 90s and both were fired for their actions from that organisation.

Not by engaging with MSM unprepared,or by playing to their narrative and stereotypes to stick on the TV news clip.

I refer to the NARGC interview in the Covid year when the shooting season looked at being closed down. Could the two lads have dressed any better to portray a stereotypical character of what Joe Public thinks us hunters look like? Tweed suit and flat cap and quilted vest and baseball cap out at a pheasant pen... Yayyy for really emphasizing a negative stereotype? Does Wayne La Pierre conduct media interviews for the US NRA in a baseball cap and tactical vest outside Joe's Gun range, with "from my cold dead hands" emblazoned on the cap? LOOKS are a big thing today in this instant media world.

Imagine how that Newstalk interview would have gone there if your man had read a couple of chapters on debating by Jordan Peterson or Ben Shapiro and used that as well as having some memorised prepared facts on Carmody, or anyone else? Their emotivism and argument would have lasted three seconds to anyone rational when given facts. Even Min Noonan's statement that PK read at the start should have been seized on by our spokesman and used to show that if it wasn't for hunters these ground-nesting birds would be a lot less and that hunters contribute 100% more financially and in practical conservation than Carmody and the likes of him have ever in a decade of protest.

We have to fight smarter and pick our battlegrounds better before just jumping onto any type of access to the media.Do we really think we will convince people one way or another in a 5-minute soundbite?

I would add that "hearts &minds" also play a big part on us keeping our sport. But I would settle for "getting off asses" as a great advancement here in Irish shooting.Even if every one of us made a conscious effort of trying to recruit two newbies to shooting of any kind per year,it would be an incredible boost to the lifestyle.

What’s new lads, nothing.

It’s just the usual annual media event which comes around year after year, like the Late Late “Toy Show”. RTE and other media outlets have to fill the slots to generate income to keep shareholders happy.

As several other members have said, our down-fall is not being “media savvy”, only those who know their subject and are experienced in media debate should take part.

Enough said. 

^THIS!^

I wonder if the journo got out of the shop without being asked if he’d consider a Blaser?