Public Pay Talks - see mod warning post 4293

If he is then I would agree with Fliball on this one, his Lecturer certainly doesn't deserve a pay rise!

Wow. The Govt were able to find 350 quid a week for people who weren't working during Covid to the tune of billions added to our debt. We can find billions for Ukranian refugees coming into the country. But we can't offer public servants who are always hit hardest by a recession a bit of a well deserved pay increase. Public Servants who contribute greatly to the running of the country and tax take.

Nonsense.

Well they should have got cushy jobs in the public sector since then.

Once again I will be pointing these kinds of messages back to you boyos, you will get pay rises but if you think the money flow that pays the bills as in the private sector can afford what is about to be laid on them and pay pay rises to keep up with inflation you in for a surprise. They dont have the ECB magic money tree that can lend 100s of billions for debts.. But keep on beings smug as the smile I reckon will be wiped from your face in about 12/18 months time.

The fact is the private sector is what drives the economy and that is going to be devasted. Everyone thinking now about how bad it will be and how expensive it is to keep going during the winter, needs to look at the private sector they have the same bills to pay and even getting a loan to try and get them through the winter could well be 3 times more expensive come December than it is now but you guys keep on going nothing to see there - up coming recession - sure what recession. As I say I will point back to some of the responses from those who think they are so brilliant with regards to the economy in this little open county of ours as to how blinkered and small minded they were with regards to where the country is going.

How long will a private sector company be able to pay these increases for energy and keep up with expectations on wages and make a profit, it simply does not add up I am afraid and this is just the start of what we are in for this winter.

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2022/0826/1318977-sse-airtricity-price-rise/

Once again no argument from you good man keep up will you

Ah will ye come out of it. We have borrowed billions to cover the countries spend and the public sector bill is a very significant portion of our spend that we have had to borrow for and its only when an outside independent auditor (the IMF) told the government of the day we will not get any more borrowing unless we cut the Public service bill as it was out of control it was only then it was cut. Remember politicians are in the Public sector and Turkeys do not vote for Xmas

Once again lets see what happens. All is pointing to a recession with higher inflation about to kick in. Private sector companies have not got the ECB to borrow from for the next few years or even the price to pay for borrowing from the banks is going to be getting higher and higher. I find it strange that the moaning for people wanting anywhere from 10 to 30% pay rises for the public sector because inflation is going through the roof think that it only applies to them and that all private sector companies are milking the profits left right and center. As I say give it to January after a winter of even higher energy costs, higher inflation, higher interest rates and employees expectations of higher wages and lets see how many private sector companies can weather that storm. I have put up links to all of the above and no one has challenged what is coming with any kind of proof, just come back with stupidly thought out retorts like the one I am replying to.

At the moment things have not turned. Well we will see Rog we will see.

'ard man. Of course, when it comes to the crunch you'll sh1t the pants and take whatever is thrown to you.

Don't believe me? Look what happened when the IMF were in town and compulsery job cuts was a real possibility. Pay cuts, additional contributions, additional hours, additional pay cuts for new hires, additional work load due to ban on recruitment and not a whimper. Knowing that you'd be too useless to get a job anywhere else, you rolled over and taken it all. You'd no idea what was coming but you still lay there unmoved ready for more.

Didn't exactly set the world on fire did you, despite all the tough talk we heard at the time.

Luckily for you, the private sector was able to adept and thrive again, thus pulling the country out of the mire and allowed those things be thrown back to you piecemeal.