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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Ah yes RTE and other Media in cahoots with Mr Tedros today. Apparently we aren’t learning to live with Covid because there are 1 million ‘related’ covid deaths so far this year. Also we have the necessary ‘tools’ to stop this apparently. This shyte and the quest for perpetual restrictions will never end. Does Tedros know that 17 million people die every year from heart disease? I have never seen him condemn a McDonalds or a KFC food chain. My 56 year old cousin dropped dead a few weeks ago enjoying said diet.

    It’s like this. I’m getting my second booster tomorrow. Yes Covid is not going away or will it ever go away and it will never be over. Unfortunately the zealots will never go away either and i suspect they will get angrier and louder as time goes on. I’m seeing on social media including twitter they are beginning to lose the plot more and more.

    As i said, getting my booster tomorrow and as far as I’m concerned Covid is over for me. They can all **** off including anyone who has an issue with my post.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    You complain about the WHO complaining but then you say you're getting a booster.

    If you say it's over, and that covid is with us forever, why are you getting a booster? Are you going to keep getting boosters every time they make a new one?



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,359 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    Getting a second booster seems to be a big contradiction from the first part of your post, Micky. DLink was right to question that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭live4tkd


    100%!

    We have a refugee crisis which is turning into a complete sh*tshow too on top of this. I have said it previously we needed something major to distract the hysterics and government from Covid and boy did we get it!

    There are people I do not see locally anymore who used to be out regularly but such as the media driven hysteria they don`t venture out. A work colleagues parents up the country are the same. Scary to think this is still happening.

    Yet the government response to Covid, the current refugee crisis and Troystory will still be defended to the hilt by some!



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Not really. It’s a personal choice. It’s not a restriction. You don’t have to get vaccinated these days so why does that seem to bother Mr DLink whether i get vaccinated or not? I don’t care if he gets a booster or not or am i demanding that he should. My point is that i have done everything i was asked to do to get my normalcy back. Like most people i sacrificed 2 years and got vaccinated and there are still some out there who think it’s not good enough and continue with the doom and gloom while on a quest for restrictions and further society shutdowns.

    You do realise the WHO want you to give up your normal life and want governments to reintroduce restrictions and mask mandates is one of them. Just sayin’ ….

    But ok i will give my reasons for my booster. I’m not 30 anymore i hit 50 last year. My work is high risk for contracting Covid and i have 2 transatlantic flights in the next month. I regularly travel over to the States.

    No i don’t plan to take every new vaccine that comes out but i may take a booster every autumn just like people take the flu shot every year( no i don’t take the flu shot or any other vaccine)

    . However if Covid miraculously dwindles out i won’t be taking any more jabs for sure.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭EOQRTL


    I'm finished with the whole thing personally. 3 jabs in the space of just over a year and they want me to get another one starting next week?? Get ta fcuk otta that. Covid is a disease fatal to the very old and those with severe health issues and always has been . The figures don't lie.

    We've all been had over the last few years.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Just look at the people who pocketed a fortune over the last few years!!


    Any sign of that headbanger who was all over Irish media for 2 years, predicted over 100,000 deaths back in March 2020...in the end it was the sole factor in less than 200 deaths!!!


    The rest had suffered at least one serious comorbidity, many of them multiple comorbidity's, the very same people who had access to the health systems pulled from them!!!

    While imposing quarantine on healthy peoples is and will continue to take a massive toll on people.


    The price of this madness is only starting to manifest itself, I hope those in charge of this are ashamed of themselves.



  • Registered Users Posts: 38,317 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    The next general election is going to be fun



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭mollser


    Is that because the shinners and assorted lefties wanted harder and longer lockdowns I.e. zero covid? I won't forget that for sure!



  • Registered Users Posts: 989 ✭✭✭Stormyteacup


    Latest from ‘headbanger’ in today’s Irish Times:


    “He [McConkey] told The Irish Times, they were not seeing people with Covid dying from “Type 1 respiratory failure” due to lack of oxygen in recent months. As most people were vaccinated, lung failure was not arising, he confirmed.

    With so many people having had Covid or three to four vaccines, the latest variants were more transmissible “but less pathogenic to the lungs”.”

    Omicron variants less dangerous because of vaccines? Is it my comprehension fault or is that what he’s claiming?

    He has also claimed a 20% chance of a more infectious mutation arising. I’d like to see the workings on that - I suspect he borrowed Philip Nolan’s modelling machine to come up with it.

    And also in that article, HSE on Claire Byrne yesterday bemoaning the ‘small but really important’ number of unvaccinated (150,000 - 200,000) as the unvaccinated are disproportionately represented in the hospital figures. How is this nonsense still being peddled?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    He is a dangerous individual, wasn't is he who suggested men should have a licence to leave their homes in the evening after that murder earlier in the year!!

    Probably believes that climate change created the virus and toxic masculinity spread it!!

    The only smart thing I've done in recent times is to completely stop engaging with Irish mainstream media, I should have done it 20 years ago!



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Jesus the doom and gloom in that article. Then you have the WHO “ countries must act before it’s too late” bolloxogy. Act how?? Do they want us to **** reintroduce a raft of restrictions for the winter?

    The stats being low are never ever going to be good enough. They will just keep this going..



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    And our government were all on for signing the WHO Pandemic treaty. Sheer madness, people need to keep a very close eye on what is happening and not rely or engage with mainstream media at the same time!



  • Registered Users Posts: 38,317 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Then on the other side we have the people who were in power but hid behind scientists during the pandemic



  • Registered Users Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    What has come of the government signing up for that WHO bolloxology, is Mehole still waiting on the report about the report?

    I can't see them going for full lockdown again as thankfully we can't afford any more of that theatre, but they're gonna keep peddling the drugs and possibly masks.

    I've stopped listening to the radio and watching RTE news, and all TV adverts get paused & skipped, but just today I heard a radio advert pushing the vax, and they're still using "for us all" as a tagline...



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    I don't know, I believe it was a few African countries that pushed back on it (could be wrong on that) but it will be pushed again...if our government signs it and they are very enthusiastic about signing it, then locking down, closing schools, shutting businesses, letting the elderly pass away in nursing homes alone etc inflicting huge harm on healthy people will be a decision made in WHO head quarters, if they declare a pandemic! Our politicians are capable of doing that...so brace yourself for the climate emergency!



  • Registered Users Posts: 989 ✭✭✭Stormyteacup


    Yes indeed. And Rishi Sunak is calling out the UK government for doing just that, it’s interesting that none of the Irish media have commented on his covid restrictions views yet.. they have been reporting on his and Liz Truss’s media interactions eagerly… except this one so far.



  • Registered Users Posts: 38,317 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,951 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Last month I was in hospital for a specialised cardiac surgery. No questions asked, no Covid test either. All good, and thanks for asking I'm still here!

    As I have this issue with the ticker I will be getting the booster, and the flu jab, and the pneumonia jab. I'll be high as a kite.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,768 ✭✭✭hynesie08




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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,768 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    What does that have to do with COVID? Already planning made up situations where a non existent gig is cancelled?



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Who are you referring to, the "scientists" we were presented in media making pie in the sky projections with or the scientists who wouldn't endorse lock downs who were censored and/or had their reputations destroyed?



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,768 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    Cool story bro, proudly hang the great Barrington declaration beside your che Guevara poster.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Nah dude, you're the real rebel here....rebelling against people who don't agree with the government affords you a weird type of smugness I gotta say!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 38,317 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009




  • Registered Users Posts: 553 ✭✭✭Apothic_Red


    I bring good news, if you're one of the lucky ones who are still dodging Covid & taking precautions then relax, you've actually had it & not known it.

    Time to throw away the masks & the hand sanitizer for good, if you're one of the few still clinging on

    And then I bring even better news

    Only 15 people left in ICU.

    I started a thread here months ago asking for someone in power to declare this nonsense fully over. I volunteer a cardiac first responder & we still have families unable to follow their loved on to the nearest ED following a health emergency. The hospitals are still not letting relatives/visitors in. On a tangent to that we have never been as busy with callouts for chest pains, strokes, heart attacks. I'm starting to think this is no coincidence & we're dealing with a legacy of missed GP care & appointments over the past few years.

    I hope I'm wrong



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Unfortunately, you are not wrong, like much of the world we are seeing increases in excess death, that is death above the norm, much higher than what we saw in 2020/2021 when the media were shouting death numbers at us at all times every day.

    We shut off the health system to everyone no matter what their health status or requirements.

    I vividly remember seeing Micheal Martin react to Mattie McGrath when McGrath asked him about cancers, heart issues, when the Dail sat in the Bord Gais Theatre...he spoke to McGrath like he was a buachail dana, Martin regressed back into a school teacher trying to deal with unruly kids, about his level really!! There was a leader way out of his depth, FF have destroyed the Irish economy on at least 3 occasions now, I think what is unfolding right now will be far worse than anything they have done before!!

    It is not good enough to point to all the other countries who also did similar, we went deeper and longer with our lock downs and restrictions than most for a virus that affects the elderly in a country with one of the youngest population in the EU.

    Again, to put it in context, a 5% increase in excess death is 1,500 extra deaths a year, this is going to go on for at least 3 years, that blame lies squarely with Nphet and the Cabinet. 5% is at the low end of what other nations are experiencing, but again, our youthful population is probably a factor in that also.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭bloopy


    Are the hse still releasing information showing the break down of vaccinated /unvaccinated in hospital or are they just making comments on radio shows.

    I know they had quite detailed information until omicron started to kick off, then they just abandoned it.

    If they have this information can someone link to where I can find it. Would be very interested to see the raw data and not throwawy comments on the radio.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    I wonder is the article saying that if you were exposed to the virus that you are a covid statistic whether sick or not? I wonder if you are exposed to Covid do you create antibodies even though not infected.

    I was definitely exposed to it. I was in a small room with a few other people for approximately 2 hours. One person in the room had it ( unbeknownst to her) and she was actually sitting next to me. Two days later everyone in the room became ill except me. Not even a sniffle. I also kept testing negative and no one close to me became ill either in the following days. So I assumed that because i wasn’t ill, tested negative and that no one else caught anything from me i didn’t have Covid.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 29,474 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Do you understand how excess deaths are counted?

    Here is a balanced bbc article on uk excess deaths. Note that up to half the increase may be due to aging population.

    Now factor in covid deaths.

    Long covid impact on mortality

    Local specific issues such as heatwaves and in uk ambulance delays

    That accounts for a lot before you have to factor in cancelled screenings etc

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-62648951.amp

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    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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