What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

Anyone who voted for Brexit was a) extremely uninformed, b) it suited them financially, or they thought it would, c) a complete and utter moron, or all of the above. If they voted for Brexit because of concerns about migration they were beyond dropped on their heads as babies moronic, or blind.

EU migration into the UK consisted almost entirely of other White Europeans and that tap being closed off has hit many of their domestic industries hard. Their non EU migration that consisted almost entirely of non White people, the part that winds some up on both sides, came from their ex empire and being in the EU or not had little impact on that and continues to do so. And they never lost control of their currency.

A large chunk of their now many generational inward migration happened before they even signed up to the EEC. They only got in in 1973. Their Black Windrush generation of those from the Caribbean went there in the 1950's and 60's. Their Pakistani and Indian diasporas dittto. All because they were in another international community of their own making, the Commonwealth and they wanted cheap as chips labour to rebuild post war Britain(like the Germans bringing in Turks). Oh and they're still dealing with migrants on rubber dinghies washing ashore in Dover after Brexit.

Inward migration beyond the free EU movement of people, again the vast majority of whom are born and bred from Europe, is down to the individual and local states. The EU didn't tell us to accept 50 or 100,000 Ukrainians. We only took in 3,500 Syrians and significantly more than that tried and succeeded in getting into Europe from that war. The EU didn't tell us to have the Jus Soli loophole that led to a large part of our multiculturalism in the first place. Indeed wasn't so pleased with it. It didn't tell us to get rid of it either. That was down to us and a democratic vote. The EU didn't set up direct provision. The EU didn't instruct O'Gorman to tell economic migrants to come on in and expect housing and social welfare. The EU didn't tell McEntee to give residency to illegal immigrants, sorry, the "undocumented". It's not the EU that's calling for more "diversity" in Moore Street and bugger all of said "diversity" will be Spanish, German or Polish stalls.

As for "papers please" and overreach. Give me a break. The trend in society over the last few centuries has been an increase in the number of "papers" the individual is attached to. Indeed the fewer such "papers" in a nation tells you how poor it is. If you drive a car, you have "papers". If you attend a GP you've a whole dossier of "papers" that strangers will read if you need to go for further medical attention. If you have a loan or a mortgage you have a whole book of the things that you will need to produce. Every time you buy something on your card or phone you're "producing papers" that judge your fiscal state. If you go on a weekend break or holiday to Spain, or France or Holland you have fewer "papers please" and you don't have to go near a bank to get cash to spend on dinner, drinks and souvenirs because of the EU.

It's the usual re-imagining of history and culture to twist it for the sake of the multicultural politic. The "history and character" of Moore street has bugger all to do with the "ethnically diverse". If you took a walk down Moore Street in the 1990s you'd be waiting for quite a while to see or hear anyone that wasn't White, Irish and a Dub and if you did they were likely tourists, or short term stay students.

Moore Street is the poster boy for being White, Irish and a working class Dub. That's its whole thing. There is bugger all "cross-generational" history, because there's barely a generation of multiculturalism in this country in the first place, and where there was in the case of Italians that came here in tiny numbers to open cafes and takeaways, well they're not nearly "diverse" enough, pretty much ditto for the Chinese people who came here in equally small numbers.

"Diversity" nearly always means and is political jargon on the Right and the Left for Black and Brown people. Before the very recent influx because of Russian imperialism, whose paleness confuses both the Right and the Left, when the vast majority of inward migration into Ireland was of other White Europeans, it was the Black and Brown who got and still get the attention. As I noted before we now have a Irish Black history month, yet the Poles alone who vastly outnumber Africans in Ireland don't merit a wet Tuesday in November.

And why does diversity mean Black and Brown? It's got little to do with the Black and Brown folks themselves. It's more to do with exoticism and most of all because of the squeaky wheel gets the oil and those who migrate to another country and culture who look the least like the locals of that country and culture are the most likely to be the squeaky wheel. The Poles or Spaniards or Italians, or Germans who live and work here, well they don't stand out, nobody notices them, no squeaky wheel, so no oil required.

I would be pretty shocked if it didn't come out that some movers and shakers in policy in Gremany say, weren't compromised by Russian money and influence. For all the anti EU stuff from some quarters I can comfortably say that one bunch that really don't like the EU and what it represents and that's putin's Mother Russia. A safe prosperous EU on his doorstep is a bigger threat than NATO in actual concrete terms.

As you noted China is looking shaky, America is divided(though it always has been to some degree. IMHO that's one of its base states), Russia is fooked economically and politically and likely militarily, the developing world is well, developing, Europe, the EU is in a very strong position worldwide and one of the biggest and most stable trading blocks in it.