Quiet Quitting - the new “great resignation”

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Personally I believe this is the new burn out from people working at home looking at zoom all day.

The phenomenon being described in the article is nothing new. There were always people like that who would do only their contracted hours and be clock-watching from the start to finish time, and not in a time-management, organised way, but literally killing the time in between.

“Quiet quitting”, it’s the new way to frame being lazy and unmotivated as virtues 😂

If you can wrap it up by 5, fair enough.

You can be the busy fool and be the bestest boy or girl in the company and get fcuk all thanks for it. No-one ever regrets that they didnt spend doing more unpaid overtime on their deathbed.

Exactly, just a bunch of lazy pricks who never did the hours they were supposed to do or the work they were supposed to but have now found a way to label it so they end up looking like some kind of hero. A proper good recession is needed to sort out the wheat from the chaff. The world is full of these tick tock merchants who see no issue with spending half their day on social media rather than doing the job they were paid to do.

It's always been around, known as work-to-rule.

That's not quite what work-to-rule is. Only working contracted hours is only a small part of it and it's an action taken in order to reduce output and efficiency, usually as a form if industrial action.

I can see there being a rise in people who formerly would have done a bit extra while in office, but are now becoming more black and white about things due to being at home. Seems like a natural consequence of a rise in work from home.

But dickheads getting wet as they count the minutes until they can record themselves slamming the laptop shut at 5pm, all so that they can post it on social media and get the shallow kudos from other dickheads?

Thats not a problem, because that sort of moron never contributed much to begin with.

I have noticed last 3years but especially this year the graduates we are taking on are even more lazy and beyond useless than usual.

I have lost count of the times I have asked them to use their brains and get into it

We have let go 5 already. All 5 having honours degrees in accounting , giving out degrees now

I mean work to live not live to work right? I've had this attitude for my entire life, no regrets so far. Having said that I am motivated by personal relationships,not rules and if my manager asked me for emergency help at any time , including 2am as has happened, I help without hesitation because I want to help him, I couldn't care less about the company. In fairness he always gives me a day in lieu, if he calls me in like that, he's a good lad.

It doesn't always work that way. I've always selected people for promotion on the basis of their efficiency and quality of work and never because they work longer. In fact I always was suspicious of the ability of someone who had to work more hours than anybody else, or than the job asked for.

Many of ye appear to have missed the definition of quiet-quitting.

It's not about working hard during your contracted hours, and then stopping.

It is about doing the absolute minimum you can do without getting fired. So contracted hours, minimum outputs, no learning new skills. Just plodding as slowly as you can get away with.

So yeah, if you want to be an unpromotable dead-head, who has no colleagues who you can trade favours with ('cos you never do anything to help anyone else), then quiet-quit away.

Just keep in mind that technology keeps changing. The skills which are keeping you employed today will likely be obsolete in a few years time.

I did read the article, and I read your post too. They’re not the same groups of people. The phenomenon being described in the article doesn’t apply to the group of people you’re talking about.

The group of people you’re talking about are hardly announcing it on social media when they’re arriving at their desks, when they’re taking lunch, when they’re finished for the day, as if the online world is their parent, and they’re in kindergarten.

It’s not a new fad that’s sweeping the globe, it’s just become more apparent due to social media, but it’s been observed across industries since industrialisation.

It’s that same sort of passive aggressive shìtty behaviour has given rise to calling the latest emergence of the phenomenon “Quiet Quitting”, can they not just say “I’m not happy with my employment”.

I don’t expect them to say “I’m tired of this shìt and I want to quit but I can’t”, so “Quiet Quitting” it is, being packaged as something virtuous and brave, when it’s nothing more than trying to disguise their own laziness and lack of motivation.

Yep absolutely

But there's a cost to that attitude, especially if you're in a job that is your career.

If you're stacking shelves in Dunnes or making coffee in Insomnia, go for it.

This is eminently sensible, but it was a deeply unfashionable way of thinking for maybe 25 years.

I’ve a few companies, different sectors, and it is genuinely amazing how the idea of time off in lieu came to be accepted rather than extra payment. Incredible. One of my companies saved close to €100k the first year it was introduced. In essence me and a partner were up that money and the workers were down it. And nearly all of them stayed until the company folded in the recession.

Someone else said there’s a cost to not putting in extra work etc. Young people need to be very wary of this way of thinking, if overtime isn’t being paid the cost is far more likely to be to you than anyone else. Don’t get lured in by hopes of promotion, unless there is a very, very clear path.

By all means work very hard during the hours of work, but don’t donate your time to an employer. It’s common sense, that somehow became very uncommon. If an employer sees you have a bit of sense and won’t work for free they’re far more likely to respect you.

People are copping on and fighting back against a system/culture that expects you to put in work "above and beyond" your current payscale in order to angle yourself in for promotions.

Which of course, is complete bullshit, because of course it is. And everyone working from home for the last couple years and "doing their own research" has yielded some unexpected results: like more people being aware of how drastic the rip-off of this scheme is. And what's worse for businesses, is there is ONE CHART that shows it to anyone.

This one:

The other problem was politicians keep saying the quiet parts out loud. The most recent was this week, when they openly complained that student loan forgiveness undermines military recruitment (which relies upon incentivising payment for college, to force the poor boys (and girls) to go to war while Daddy Congressman's kids get an impeccably peculiar number of scholarships from Exxon). Other examples have been, blaming a mere $1200 of relief for tens of millions of workers having the mobility to leave their **** jobs and reapply for better ones and negotiate better pay, simply because they had the 2-3 weeks worth of expenses in their bank account to tell their abusive bosses to **** off without it being a matter of accepting abuse or the kids rationing their insulin. This crisis of infinite earths, this endgame, was called the Great Resignation. And now unemployment is at a 50-year low in the US, go figure...

Calling it "silent quitting" is the new CEO thinktank jargon so they can justify laying you off for doing exactly the job descriptions they hire and pay you for. It means you quit staying late on saturdays while the execs **** off on friday after a corporate breakfast to go golf for the weekend. How dare you, honestly, be so ungrateful for the opportunity to shine those shoes?

Which of course, is complete bullshit, because of course it is.

Calling it bullshìt though, isn’t any sort of an argument against the idea that promotions and rewards are given to people who are deemed to have gone above and beyond to earn those rewards from their employers, while the employee who is “silent q…”

Oh for goodness sakes they’re doing the bare minimum is expected of them by their employer and looking to celebrate the idea on social media by portraying themselves as standing up to the corporate and capitalist culture and policies which they shall continue to promote in other ways (my LinkedIn is full of this stuff right now 🙄).

They’re not actually adding anything of any value to society, they’re looking to be congratulated and celebrated for doing exactly what is expected of them by their employers. It’s a perverse means of social validation 😂

I think there are some pilots but I expect it will never become mainstream.

It was as real and widespread as quiet quitting.

That is to say, not at all.

Only have casual interest in the whole alleged great resignation event but where exactly are all of these people quitting to, quietly or otherwise?

You see thus is the nonsense: Quiet quitters aren't quitting at all, they're just doing the job they were paid to do.

This might be a better description if f what’s happening In Ireland than quiet quitting. People are looking for improved conditions, and if they’re not getting them they’re far more likely to move on than previously.

Also stringing them along with a hope that at some unspecified date in the future they’ll be looked after is far less likely to work than it was a few years ago.

I took a look at some out our old recruitment ads recently, no way you’d get an applicant now. We were looking for people who could work well under pressure, were flexible, could work on multiple tasks over the course of a week. It was all bs of course, but it seems mad now that you could recruit people by telling them the job was tough. Especially for what we were paying.