AMD Zen Discussion Thread

I was tempted but the 5900X is tempting me also as I do more with my machine than just gaming.

5900x is around 430 from amazon.de at the moment

Have the 5900x myself :-) I have not seen the 5950x at €515 anywhere. The 5800X3D is looking pretty amazing for gaming. Don't think many would notice the difference between any of them in real world gaming but at €515 I'd probably go with the 5950x. Any link to where it can be got for that price ?

Just as I recommended this cpu here, I want to add I would avoid mindfactory. I've been dealing with them for about 2 weeks about them first sending out an empty box that dhl refused to deliver as it was empty then the second attempt they created a label for UPS but then tried say it was handed to DHL again and I still haven't got the cpu and they are refusing a refund until they get their empty box back.

I just ended up cancelling the order and went with paypal to attempt to get a refund. I've since ordered a second 5950x since they were in stock at amazon.de

No idea until it releases.

Though TBH I'm just waiting for 5800X3D to drop in price.

I think this year's offering is more about the new chipset and DDR5/PCIe 5 support. The gains on the CPU itself are minimal at best.

IGPs and APUs already happen, it feels like they're just normalizing basic Output functionality to all CPUs to alleviate buyer confusion, "do I NEED a graphics card to check my stocks" etc.; I think this will improve their marketability, but they can always manage to confuse consumers. Developers don't need to fuss with this: they write code for DirectX, and DirectX deals with how it communicates with the Kernel, etc.; The DirectX and Vulkan people/orgs are who deal with how the hardware is exploited into games performance (outside of GPU/dev partnerships like Nvidia is often fond of doing, as it keeps a lot of its graphics tech proprietary)

All I can say about AM5 is it looks alright and people looking to build should probably base their motherboard and CPU on that if they're looking at Team Red. I think their CPUs are competitive but I might be biased on a 5600X. My current situation is my fiancee is daily driving my old PC in full now, the FX8150 Bulldozer and the R9 390. The 8150 still works as a daily driver even if it was a critically panned release, and that wasn't much different than the 1055t that I ran before that. In effect I feel like their CPUs, even when they haven't always been faster than what Intel has typically replied with, they have always been great value because they are engineered in a forward thinking manner. I recall when I was putting 6 cores into my PC when the average was 2, people thought I was moonbrained, but in effect that same architecture has proven to have aged like wine, at least in my use case. I always banked on multicore and redundancy over pure boost speed, and as each application newly announces multithreaded support, the old clunker gets faster at things still. I believe the 8150 and the 390 could possibly get me to the backend of the AM5 generation at least without needing to upgrade her into a new one, like I got in on building the endstage of AM4 with RDNA2 (5600X and 6xxx GPU). Being slower than forecast shouldn't scare you in the long run, that money you'll likely save buying the processor will be worth it. The competing Intel CPUs when Bulldozer was out were still relatively more expensive, and didn't have the same lifespan IMO, fewer cores already hyperthreaded to bejesus. My i5 3xxxx series laptop is basically an expensive and pretty brick, but yeah even that too still kinda runs Solidworks on a good day.

I'd have been owed a refund if I new about is CAL

Not overclocking that ultrabook anytime soon though. It has no headroom for such things.

My first was one of the first or 2nd series Core 2 Duos. People on here called me an eccentric for going on about dual cores being important.

The FX processors were bad even in their day and aged badly.The FX-6300 was decent at I think $99 or thereabouts, at least at the time. It was around the same price as an i3 4th gen, maybe even cheaper.

Nowadays despite the hex and octo-core, they perform horribly, the fx-8350 is compable to a 1st gen i7 from 2008. Was a guy on Reddit recently with an FX-8320 and a GTX3080. Claimed there was no bottleneck. 🙄

That 13% is IPC, not performance. They've upped the clocks a lot too.

You can always run the CPU at 65W, and (apparently) it will perform around 40% better (might be a bit off, that's from memory).

Still disappointed it's not $200/250 though.

Been holding out for the next gen/socket of Ryzen.

Bit disappointing that the 7600x is so expensive, plus will require slightly more expensive DDR5 ram.

Im kind of tempted to build something on Black Friday with Zen 3 and DDR4

From what I remember there were AM4 brackets/adapters provided for some AM3 coolers by request when Ryzen first launched.

Should be the same this time.