What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

"if a deal is done I will smell a rat."

Did you read the impeachment? See the hearings? See the trial? Read the coverage?

Do. You. Smell. It? That's my question here, not "did Impeachment remove Trump from office."

Okay, if this is how you want to display your sense of smell you just boasted of, I'm gonna rest my case there.

I wasn't asking about the ultimate smell test, just yours:

But **** it, I digress. I guess this was just empty bravado.

I have never seen the appeal of Trump either as a politico or as a businessman. He has been a failure in both and is somehow able to sell himself as more successful than he actually ever really was! Trump's 4 years in office were abysmal to say the least ... Covid, Iran policy, meaningless summits with Kim Jong Un and Putin, insulting almost everyone and many the country that he encountered, namecalling, endorsing wellknown conspiracy nuts, etc. says pretty much everything.

That said though US politics in the modern era has been a travesty ever since 9/11 and the decision to go to war in Iraq ... based 100% on a false conspiracy theory. These conspiracies did not start with 9/11 or that war but in 1980s when there were several rumours of such wars based on exaggerated threats. In the end 9/11 proved to be the catalyst for conspiracy wars and sadly Russia have just copied the US approach now and all.

The sad fact is the Democrats and Republicans can no longer get on. When senseless individuals like Marjorie Greene gain support enough said. This whole Trump-related madness started in its modern guise within the Republicans with the so-called Tea party which was a violently anti Iran anti Obama anti big government anti Islam pro war pro conspiracy nutter group that lead to the Proudie and the Oathie boys later and that horned man from January 6th. The sad irony is they look like the false stereotypes of the countries they hate!!

The very idea of Trump or some worse Republican nutter representing that party or getting elected president says a lot. That America can even consider voting for these jokers in mass numbers is scary to say the least. The Democrats are not much better. They have not reversed 90% of Trump's misguided agenda such as sanctions implemented and appear to try to appease these nutters who have taken hold of the Republicans. America is in a very bad place at the moment. Not quite one of those American dystopias from those TV shows but not far off it either.

The fact he wasn’t removed from office doesn’t matter, he is still for the record a twice impeached former president, just like Clinton is a one time impeached president. It amazes that trump supporters can’t understand this concept. Donald trump was impeached and like Peter Jennings said on the ABC coverage of Clinton’s impeached, it will be a stain on his presidency for the rest of history, and that was just as the house was voting to impeach him.

Except under oath Clinton was found to have committed perjury which was one of the articles of impeachment and the other article was obstruction of justice which trump did multiple times during his term in office.

He made a last-minute payoff in relation to Trump university fraud. $25m I think it was. Surely that was the time for you to see that he was nothing but a con man.

He has been convicted of fraud in relation to charities ad at present is forbidden from being o the board of a charity. That was probably a good time to make the call on him.

This is a ridiculous position to hold.

The sole reason he has avoided legal ramifications for the multiple acts he has committed is because of the immunity of the office. That is the main reason he denied the result of the election.

To tease out your logic, if he shot dead someone on 5th avenue, because he was not convicted while president, you wouldn't have an issue.

Looks like he was right on that front after all.

"Dem can't see that there just like Rep"

And we are back to posters being either delusional or disingenuous

One commentator suggested that Trump’s best defense was that he was not involved in such minor moving details and that his WH staff was responsible. And later when the librarians complained, this staff assured him that they took care of it. In other words, throw his staff under the bus.

Problem with that is

a) his handwriting is on the docs and

b) he didn't, and continues to refuse, to hand the docs back.

He is claiming they are his. How on earth can he "blame the staff"?

Plus, I doubt that Trump will be indicted by DOJ. Both Trump and Graham have recently warned of violence in the streets if they try Trump. There’s a lot of civil war chatter on the web accordingly. So as with the Russia Mueller investigation, and 2 impeachment’s, Trump will once again slip away and run in 2024.

I can't tell if you're being serious here or not.

"Chatter online" does not constitute grounds for letting someone away with breaking the law. It is a ridiculous idea that the threat of violence can circumvent justice. Charge him, let the crazies come out, and then arrest them, just like they continue to do with Jan 6.

As for him running in 2024, it is a fanciful dream unfortunately. I would dearly love him to.

They both have their flaws, but to suggest that their flaws are in any way comparable is utter and absolute nonsense.

How the "mighty" have fallen....

Totally sane 2am post...