Is the future of FG with Leo Varadkar or Simon Coveney?

skimpydoo · 30-08-2022 7:49pm #1

As FG leads up to taking the reigns again is FG'd future with Leo Varadkar or Simon Coveney?

After the next election Leo will no longer be Taoiseach, so will he still be FG leader or will it be Simon?

bmc58 · 30-08-2022 7:57pm

I could not care less with these two spoofers.Neither will matter after the next election.The Irish people will hopefully have seen through their false fromises and self serving policies.

buried · 30-08-2022 8:02pm

Whoever wins....We won't give a $hit

Silentcorner · 30-08-2022 8:02pm

FG are finished as a major party....we are headed to a decade of political turbulence that we haven't seen in decades.

30-08-2022 8:05pm

McEntee is the future of the party.

Count Dracula · 30-08-2022 9:05pm

Probably Varadkar if he has the appetite for it. He could have one eye on Europe.

Helen McEntee does little wrong in fairness and she would be popular with many voters.

Loafing Oaf · 30-08-2022 9:12pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058261087/is-the-future-of-fg-with-leo-varadkar-or-simon-coveney

Why is Coveney the only, or even the main alternative? He's managed the rare trick in the current government of being both dull and gaffe-prone and I would say his moment has passed.

I don't think it's a given Varadkar will be gone after the next election. If he wants to stay on he can make a reasonable case that he's the man to spearhead the rebuilding job. If not I think Harris would be their best bet. Could turn out to be bright, young charismatic leader that Leo only shaped at being...

30-08-2022 9:15pm

Have heard that many times before. There might be musings down the pub but when it comes to the ballot box people will revert to what they know.

road_high · 30-08-2022 9:17pm

FG are heading for oblivion under either of these box tickers. FG needs a revolution within and a firm move to the right.

For Forks Sake · 30-08-2022 9:20pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119544876#Comment_119544876

The scatter of microparties fishing in the far-right pond aren't finding many votes in it, why would Fg move from the centre to there?

_Kaiser_ · 30-08-2022 9:30pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119544795#Comment_119544795

McEntee? Who was elected initially as a sympathy vote for her father, and who has done nothing before or since until she was appointed Minister for Justice out of nowhere - presumably a reward for being a Leo loyalist.

Since then we've seen serious crime and crime in general shoot up, she has presided over the mess that is the free for all for Ukrainian refugees, and she spends her time championing populist social media causes and making twitter statements for de likes - until it turns out that it wasn't an Irish man at all, and no she won't be taking in a refugee after all.

As bad as Leo and Coveney are, and they are! - the former more of the same as above, and the latter fully committed to dilution of national sovereignty (as a former friend of Peter Sutherland) and who wants to review our neutrality while bringing in another million people or so into already overcrowded towns and cities by 2040 - they are still a massive step up on Helen McEntee.

If she actually becomes leader of FG and possibly Taoiseach down the line then we might as well just give up on the pretense of being a serious country altogether.

Loafing Oaf · 30-08-2022 9:32pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119544959#Comment_119544959

If she actually becomes leader of FG and possibly Taoiseach down the line then we might as well just give up on the pretense of being a serious country altogether.

well if the Brits are going with Liz Truss...

_Kaiser_ · 30-08-2022 9:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119544972#Comment_119544972

Between Boris, Trump, Biden and now this new generation on this side of the Atlantic, its no wonder Putin is feeling his oats.

Loafing Oaf · 30-08-2022 9:37pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119544898#Comment_119544898

Yep they will position themselves as the anti-SF party but when it comes to the substance of the policy will be marginal as they are still fishing in the same vote pond as FF and the soft left parties...

Count Dracula · 30-08-2022 9:43pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119544959#Comment_119544959

Thing is Irish voters don't vote on policies, they vote on who they actually like.

I think people like her.

Who do you think might be a good person to lead FG in the future?

StevenToast · 30-08-2022 9:46pm

Maria Bailey is the future of FG.

jmcc · 30-08-2022 9:48pm

Paschal Donhoe or, a long shot as she's only a first term TD, Jennifer Carroll MacNeill. Varadkar is a serial loser who has lost seats for FG in every election that FG has contested since he was installed as leader. Coveney might have been better as the FG grassroots voted for him rather than Varadkar. Simon Harris might also consider himself leadership material.

Regards...jmcc

Loafing Oaf · 30-08-2022 9:48pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119545041#Comment_119545041

Would certainly capture the swing voters...

EOQRTL · 30-08-2022 9:49pm

Who cares, two cheeks of the same arse. The next election will finish FG off for a generation hopefully.

thinkabouit · 30-08-2022 9:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119544795#Comment_119544795

Strongly disagree.

Count Dracula · 30-08-2022 10:08pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119545073#Comment_119545073

Sounds interesting.

Genuinely, your opine is valued.

30-08-2022 11:38pm

I think someone like Mairead McGuiness will end up a compromise,looks to me a party barley avoiding a split tbh......though Jennifer macneill,or regaina Doherty would be serious lolz material

The Dublin leadership rather open distain of anyone outside the m50 is being noticed and this messing about wanting to slash cow numbers has alienated a lot of lifers,who form back bone of its traditional Wing

maebee · 31-08-2022 12:01am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119545060#Comment_119545060

"Two cheeks of the same arse". Brilliant expression. Never heard it before.

jmcc · 31-08-2022 12:16am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119545601#Comment_119545601

Carroll MacNeill is more academically qualified than Doherty or McEntee. The problem is that she's a relative unknown in terms of national politics.

Regards...jmcc

blanch152 · 31-08-2022 12:31am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058261087/is-the-future-of-fg-with-leo-varadkar-or-simon-coveney

That's a long way away. Varadkar will be Taoiseach later this year. By the time he goes, there may be many candidates other than Coveney.

AllForIt · 31-08-2022 1:35am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119545026#Comment_119545026

I think people like her.

I for one do not like her. I find her odd. She comes across like a robot being fed things to say.

brokenangel · 31-08-2022 7:38am

Just two of the multiple thread posted on boards about the FG leader. Plenty more from recollection along with the almost weekly prediction of demise on the actual government thread.

Varadkar is 43, the youngest of all the party leaders in Ireland by a significant number. Well between the main 4 anyway (Greens, FF, FG, SF) Has the support of his party and will be Taoiseach for the second time very soon.

I never supported Varadkar and I lived in his area for a while and met the man a number of times. Will never vote for him after the childrens hospital was not put into Blanchardstown but I do find it really strange why this is constantly getting asked?

Does it really warrant a new thread every time either?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058254608/when-will-fg-move-to-remove-leo-varadkar-as-their-leader

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058052616/who-will-be-the-next-fg-leader

Count Dracula · 31-08-2022 8:00am

I do think it is a fairly useless exercise for bots bashing FG anyways.

FG voters are never going to wake up one morning and suddenly decide that what Ireland needs right now is a communist autocracy hell bent on cutting off Irish financial ties to foreign investment whilst supporting a black economy and taxing every income generating business that touches the country to support some lame housing scheme that some posh turncoat with Marxist notions of socialist utopia wrote a book about?

FG voters see right through that crap and won't vote for it.

Your best chance of mud slinging is at the FF vote, which is basically the same as your own except that the only people left voting for them are the ones that realise what a shambles you would make of everything.

I would also have enough faith in Irish people to have the wit to see through it too, fingers crossed.

Mr. teddywinkles · 31-08-2022 8:05am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119545672#Comment_119545672

Yea and that arse needs a good slapping come next election

conorhal · 31-08-2022 12:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119544462#Comment_119544462

Ah here now, surely things aren't that bad for FG are they?

newhouse87 · 31-08-2022 2:15pm

Coveney not likable at all, seems to have this dismissive attitude of differing opinions and his plan for up to another million people by 2040, well yeah thats going to work out great for the country. Id take Leo over him anyday.

Is the future of FG with Leo Varadkar or Simon Coveney?

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