PV Feed In Tariff

brokenangel · 30-08-2022 8:34pm

Ok I think I made a boo boo with numbers.

The numbers I gave are without a discount

So in fact I am paying

0.2346 day rate

0.1125 night rate

So the new rate would push up my day rate but reduce my night rate, at the moment of course I use more night rate but going into winter I would expect the day rate to push up dramtically

unkel · 30-08-2022 8:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119544567#Comment_119544567

Depends on your inverter, but it should just about be able to do that in 3 hours if it can charge at 60-65A

Ha Long Bay · 30-08-2022 8:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119544715#Comment_119544715

I have the Solis 5G 6KW hybrid similar to a lot of folks here.

unkel · 30-08-2022 9:53pm

Yes it is supposed to do 100A but only does that for a little while then throttles to 60A or so. Which is still ok, you will fill your 10kWh battery in 3 hours.

A lot of us have bigger batteries, many 20kWh (myself included). No way in filling that in such a small slot unless you start using parallel battery inverters

E30M3 · 31-08-2022 10:03am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119513891#Comment_119513891

Anyone with Different Provider than EI care to confirm or refute?

bullit_dodger · 31-08-2022 10:24am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119546465#Comment_119546465

DrPhil did above in this very thread (message #941)

the_amazing_raisin · 31-08-2022 10:31am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119543555#Comment_119543555

For me I don't switch provider but I switch plans. So far Energia keep coming out cheapest and after a phone call and some brief negotiation they renew my discount at the cheapest rate and I stick with them

the_amazing_raisin · 31-08-2022 10:35am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119543399#Comment_119543399

Were you renewing or did you switch in the middle of an existing plan? I'm debating changing plan and I wonder if there's any way to dodge the €50 break contract fee

randombar · 31-08-2022 10:36am

Hi Guys,

I don't have a smart meter (thank god) and getting that form filled in to register the PV currently.

Does anyone have a table/comparison of the "estimate" FIT across the different providers?

Thanks,

Gary

Niceday20 · 31-08-2022 10:43am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119546651#Comment_119546651

Changed from Energia's Home Electric mid contract to Energia's EV plan yesterday and no break fee charged. Energia said they would not charge if just changing plan.

ELM327 · 31-08-2022 11:18am

I changed from one energia tariff to the EV rate while in contract and no break clause fee

E30M3 · 31-08-2022 11:23am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119546588#Comment_119546588

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119542822#Comment_119542822

But I think this is with a D/N meter rather than an old analogue 24 hr meter?

jkforde · 31-08-2022 11:27am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119546653#Comment_119546653

assuming you've a D\N meter then..

check https://www.purevolt.ie/domestic-solar/feed-in-tariffs.php

then use: MEC x Capacity Factor x Export Factor x Provision Interval (from CRU)

inverter rating (kwp) x 0.097 x 0.35 x 8760hrs

so for a 5kwp inverter, it'll be:

5.0 x 0.097 x 0.35 x 8760hrs = 1471

then 1471 x 0.1962c (Energia CEG) = €288

og2k7 · 31-08-2022 3:05pm

Hi all

Recently got the panels installed+battery, so if this is the wrong thread please point me in the right direction (read as many posts as possible, but at the same time everyone is different).

Have the battery and 4kW system, inverter, myeddi etc. Have a plug in hybrid so the questions are:

Do i switch to the night tariff or would need to see more data to justify moving. My thinking here is that i charge the battery overnight (if not enough sun), charge the car and the rest goes from the battery. Anything left over goes to the grid (so the microgeneration) - (spoke with Electric Ireland and there is a form called NC6) but nothing is in place yet and you would need smart meters (which we still dont have either).

Would anyone have any suggestions or the sequence I should look at? Do I go for the night tariff, then apply for smart meters and wait for the microgeneration scheme with EI?

Thanks and again - if this is a wrong thread, could someone point me to the right one

Regards

DrPhilG · 31-08-2022 3:10pm

The Energia fixed rate applies ONLY to day/night meters and the EV tariff.

SD_DRACULA · 31-08-2022 4:29pm

Need to find out a few things:

Will BG pay me deemed export for Feb-Aug FIT now that I moved to energia at the start of the month?
Or will energia pay from Feb-to-now?
Does energia even pay fit with EV tariff?
Sort of have a feeling they will say but you had smart meter and now you have d/n meter PFO - about 99% is this because we don't live in Germany

jkforde · 31-08-2022 4:34pm

@og2k7 https://www.sseairtricity.com/ie/home/help-centre/microgeneration/

good faq above re. microgeneration, metered (smart meter) vs deemed (Day\Night) export CEG payment, etc

it is the general consensus on here that smart meters and smart meter plans are to be avoided currently (can't be on a Day\Night plan once you have a smart meter, and it's hassle going back to one after you have a smart meter installed)

also, Energia have a good D\N EV fixed unit rate plan at the moment, you may have heard 😂

the_amazing_raisin · 31-08-2022 10:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119546889#Comment_119546889

Did you have to argue with them or did they volunteer that?

MAULBROOK · 31-08-2022 10:26pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119539548#Comment_119539548

Do you need to have a EV to get that plan?

bullit_dodger · 31-08-2022 10:53pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119551201#Comment_119551201

I don't have an EV, nor charger and I'm on it as of yesterday. Least I haven't heard of an issue so far. Nowhere on the website was there a question asking for any details of EV Maulbrook.

Rock on.

og2k7 · 31-08-2022 11:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119548884#Comment_119548884

Great - thanks for this and getting back to me.

Yup, was sort of getting clearer that smart meters are to be avoided.

Will chat to energia tomorrow see what's the deal.

Thanks again

the_amazing_raisin · 01-09-2022 1:27am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119551201#Comment_119551201

They might ask if you have one, but you can just lie. There's nothing in the terms that says you actually need an EV

ELM327 · 01-09-2022 8:43am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119551017#Comment_119551017

No they volunteered it without even me asking let alone arguing.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119551201#Comment_119551201

You have to tell them you have an EV.

jkforde · 01-09-2022 9:29am

"You have to tell them you have an EV"

that's not my experience, the retention agent I dealt with never asked (I do have an EV but that's beside the point).

like said above, it makes no odds, just tell them you have one, it's not like they're looking for proof like reg. cert. or anything!

bullit_dodger · 01-09-2022 10:01am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119552448#Comment_119552448

As above - I went through the whole process on the website day before yesterday and nowhere was there a question or tick box asking me about an EV. Nada. Nothing. Zip.

Website to switch was painless. You need your MPRN number and the equivalent Gas number, then the 3 readings (day/night & gas), your IBAN for the direct debit and that's it.

DrPhilG · 01-09-2022 10:51am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119548863#Comment_119548863

1 - yes BG will pay for the time you were with them. SSE confirmed this for me.

2 - see above

3 - Energia pay 18c I think, and yes it's on all tariffs. I asked this and they said that the payment was law, regardless of your tariff.

4 - you had a smart meter removed? You're most likely buggered on FiT then.

Jonathan · 01-09-2022 1:10pm

Energia EV rate gone up to 29.82/8.59c now.

MAULBROOK · 01-09-2022 1:18pm

https://www.newstalk.com/news/electric-ireland-hikes-electricity-and-gas-prices-again-1378102?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1662032758

This is getting crazy now

SD_DRACULA · 01-09-2022 1:21pm

They must be following this thread 😂

graememk · 01-09-2022 1:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119553819#Comment_119553819

Took a bit of digging but

Customers will see their electricity unit rate increase by 38.24%

jkforde · 01-09-2022 1:32pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119553768#Comment_119553768

woah, just started the precious fixed EV plan today 😅 (so much for their assurances that no further hikes were in the near pipeline!)

what's the source for you info? direct from them?

glen123 · 01-09-2022 1:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119553909#Comment_119553909

It's on their website under EV plan

Total Discounted Costs (inc. VAT)29.82 and 8.59

Yesterday they had the lower rates as I was checking them for someone.

Niceday20 · 01-09-2022 1:44pm

Energia have reduced the discount on EV plan from 31% to 25% giving rise to the price rise. I switched on Tuesday getting the 31% prices.

WattsUp · 01-09-2022 1:45pm

With all these prices increases getting announced are they announcing similar increases to the FIT ? EI announced +25% for electricity today, wonder will they be upping their 14c fit by 25% too ?

slave1 · 01-09-2022 1:48pm

This was inevitable, it's why I renewed my EV plan with Energia last week as price hikes afoot!!!

unkel · 01-09-2022 2:04pm

Glad I broke my SSE Airtricity contract and signed up for the Energia EV plan again a few days ago. The €50 penalty I will get alone is more than compensated by getting in before the small price change today.

DrPhilG · 01-09-2022 2:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119553837#Comment_119553837

Not as mad as you might think.

After I switched on Monday, I shared the info on the Irish PV owners page, the Irish EV Owners page and the Irish EV Owners Association page.

Someone on the IEVOA page said that when they called to switch, the agent asked where they had heard about it as they had been bombarded with requests.

DC999 · 01-09-2022 2:16pm

For those of us not on a D/N meter, we won't get anywhere close to a 9c rate at any time of the day. It’s liquid gold! I've a backwards spinning 24 hour meter at mo (lucky me). But that 9C night rate is actually lower costs (for the night rate time) than my backwards spinning meter. And I got the lowest 24hr rate available when I moved provider a few moths ago on bonkers (paying 19.6C now)

randombar · 01-09-2022 2:25pm

Just checked my bordgais bill there:

Day Units 189 33.26 c/kWh €62.86

Night Units 383 16.44 c/kWh €62.97

Standing Charge 68 Days 1.15 €/day €78.27

Affinity Deal Discount -40% -€50.33

From what I can tell if you add in the discount their rate is comparable with the 9c and the day rate is cheaper? Am I reading that wrong?

graememk · 01-09-2022 2:33pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119554296#Comment_119554296

Are them rates ex vat though

randombar · 01-09-2022 2:37pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119554367#Comment_119554367

Yup, most advertised rates are aren't they?

kabakuyu · 01-09-2022 2:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119553768#Comment_119553768

It will be cheaper than my current contact with EI when the rises take hold in October,i will be paying approx 29.6 day and 13.5 night(vat inc) with the likelihood of further increases in Jan.Is it still a fixed unit rate yearly contact with Energia?

paulbok · 01-09-2022 3:14pm

With EI currently and done some rough calcs on the payback.

Unit rate inc vat was 16.1c at time of install, payback was looking at about 8 years then.

New rate in October will be around 27.8c, and based on that, my payback will drop to around 5.5 years. That's without any further increases.

Good chance the way things are going, that after 4 years it'll have payed itself off.

curioustony · 01-09-2022 3:15pm

EI did not put up the standing charges for the night boost plan -- maybe they have been reading here too. Might not be quite so bad as I feared initially.

Need to update a load of rates to do a proper comparison.

Needles to say, not happy!

kabakuyu · 01-09-2022 3:59pm

Just rang Energia, EV plan is fixed for year, I have switched from EI who I suspect will have another hike post xmas,the energia night rate is too competitive to pass up.

og2k7 · 01-09-2022 4:25pm

Moving to Energia but yeah, the new deal with 31% off the table so got the 27% one with day/night tariff

the_amazing_raisin · 01-09-2022 5:08pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119553988#Comment_119553988

Ha, good luck with that 😉

the_amazing_raisin · 01-09-2022 5:10pm

I'm on a 41% discount with Energia but the rate is variable. I don't use enough night rate to make the EV plan worth it but I'm debating switching to it for the fixed rate

phester28 · 01-09-2022 6:35pm

looked back over the thread but could not find an answer. I am with electric Ireland "dual fuel" and have smart meter but will not sign up for smart plans due to the peak rates

Has electric Ireland said how / when and how much they are going to pay the FIT for solar conforming installs nc6 etc

wexfordman2 · 01-09-2022 6:52pm

I signed up to the energia dn ec rate yesterday :-) i assume the rates yesteedsy will apply not todays rates ?

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