Andrew Tate

You made some bullsh*t reasoning that social media companies are akin to public utilities, but they're not. You break their rules, you get banned, and their rules are always, always, wide enough to give them enough leeway to ban someone. They don't want to ban people because the more people on their site, the more revenue they make, and they don't really give a f*ck what people are actually saying, but the fact is if someone is having an excessive negative effect they'll ban them.

You stand in a pub calling another person a c*nt, you're going to get kicked out.

Why should the online world be so different?

"The reason they can do it, is that the legislation they operate under favours their interests rather than interests of the public."

...because they're a private company.

Completely agree.

You can see from the comments here how little people know of him, and yet are so certain of what he is. "I know enough to know that ___" is not the same as being informed.

I think people disregard him too easily. I think he is far more intelligent and resourceful than he is given credit for. I think what draws young people (mainly boys) to Andrew Tate is his unapologetic plain-speaking, similar to Trump capturing a portion of the public's imagination. He has become a citizen/resident in multiple countries so that he has options. Some will say that is proof that he is doing something illegal. I disagree, I think some people are far more sensitive to soft tyranny than others, and will do what they can to live freely.

Personally I think he's a freak of nature, in that he has an iron mindset, possibly a genius IQ, and is physically in the top .001% of men. You have to give the guy some respect for becoming the most googled man, basically figuring out how to ride the algorithm. He's also a self-made multimillionaire. I actually don't think he's a bad guy. I saw a guy say on his life chat that he had recently broken his back and he told the guy to send him an email, that he would reach out and try help the guy. Maybe people think he's full of it, but I've seen enough to think that he has some empathy, though probably a lot less than most people.

I think at least part of him genuinely wants to help the average man. His comments are hyperbolic and inflammatory, but if you watch his long form videos, he explains how he has come to those conclusions. I think his persona is designed to provoke people, but he can handle himself in a debate. He was recently accused of being a toxic male. He countered with "You've just outsourced your toxic masculinity. As soon as you don't feel safe, you'll pick up your phone and call the police, you'll call 'toxic males' to come save you". I think there's a grain of truth in that.

I think what he's doing now is some kind of long term plan for global recognition, maybe trying to create / grow an alternative media for masculine men. People think he's done because he's cancelled. He might just be gathering steam.

One good thing about these threads is that you're able to find out who the creeps are.

the free market had it's say and it didn't like what tater tot was selling.

twitter, and any other private business, can ban who they like.

those businesses arent in the business of left and right. they care about what will make them the most money and tater tot was costing them by letting him stay. thats it.

hes a vile POS anyway so nothing of value was lost.

To be fair, there's more than one form of masculinity. In my opinion, Andrew Tate is an extreme form of a hypercompetitive kind. I'm not saying that's a bad thing individually, but I'd hate to live in a world with only people like that.

Maybe attack his words or actions rather than his appearance.

Or is it fine to judge people (men?) by physical traits they can't change?

Agreed. A balance is preferable.

"While he was gaining influence in far-right circles, Tate was also accused of violence against multiple women. In an episode of “The Pomp Podcast” released this month, he openly discussed hitting a woman and breaking her jaw during a bar fight. He said he “ended up in court” after he was charged with causing “bodily harm,” but “got away with it in the end.” He said he was found innocent. In a now-deleted YouTube video, Tate said that he’s “not a ... rapist,” but “probably 40% of the reason” he relocated to Romania is because police are less likely to investigate sexual assault cases. In another video, The Guardian reported, Tate said he was investigated and held in custody for two days for allegedly abusing a woman in the U.K. He denied allegations of abuse."

You can google this stuff.

So. Do you know how quotation marks work? they're for quotes. He said he'd like to be able to get away with it.

He also said about the womans who's jaw he broke that he "got away with it"

And yes, he hasn't been charged with sex trafficking..... yet. Police have expanded the original investigation and they're still investigating.

The guy also admitted to running internet scams. He's complete and utter scum.

“I do know how to administer CPR. However, I will not administer CPR unless you’re a hot female… If you’re some fat dude and you just had a heart attack and I don’t really know you, you’re gonna die… No, not even if you’re a friend… If you’re my friend, you just can’t be a p*ssy. ‘Well, I had a heart attack’, get the f*ck up. F*cks wrong with you. Go hospital later. Have a drink, cigarette, cup of coffee, back in the game. F*cking having heart attacks near me, you little p*ssy.”

Imagine how utterly thick you'd have to be to want to listen to this guy and swallow his bullshit.