Public Pay Talks - see mod warning post 4293

Nobody asked anyone to bow down to those who are here the longest Martin.

I basically had it thrown at me that after 35 years of service, I should leave, and that I was responsible for voting through various cuts and measures (which were never put to a membership vote) and I won't take that crap from anyone either. Whether here 3 years or 35 years, I'm entitled to my opinion, and my vote.

For once I actually agree with a point Salonfire made. The back pay to February that everyone is so thrilled about is a very clever tactic by them. In real terms it is paltry. It will work out probably around the equivalent of one week salary (or less) after deductions are made (its not tax free!) and they'll drag it out to pay it out at the end of the year when they can claw back as much of it as possible from those coming close to the end of their tax credits for the year.

But it will push what is otherwise a very poor deal over the line for them.

But whatever you're having yourself. I tried.

You quoted one post out of context without bothering to also post the conversation that went on before, that it was in response too. But sure why would you, when the point of your post was to join the pile on?

You (and others) have jumped to conclusions about what way I voted in previous pay campaigns based on this latest one. How lazy of you. The amusing thing is - I am one of the few, if not the only management grade here who has argued that a better deal is needed for lower paid staff - and yet you presume I would have been one of those "old timers" who would have voted for suspending increments in the past. Really?

While all over the first half of the thread others were whinging that COs getting some extra help in the face of the costs of living, that will hit them hardest, would make them feel "devalued"? Would make it harder to recruit at management levels? But yet, I'm this awful person who is demeaning and degenerating people, that nobody would want to work with. And its fine for others to demean and degenerate me, with "you should leave" or "only five years left and you're gone!" Well, sorry to disappoint, but it couldn't be further from the truth. I work with a great team of people, and we get on very well. Only twice in almost 35 years have I ever had any problem getting along with work colleagues, and they were people who were supervising me, not the other way around.

I won't be asking anyone how they will vote. I never have, in any campaign (or election, for that matter). Anyone who chooses to tell me they're voting for it will be told the same as what I've said here, if they want to discuss it. That i think it's a crap deal, and better is deserved. That COs on the lower half of the scale will be lucky if they come out of this deal with much more into the hand, then the Government are expected to be giving in Social Welfare increases. That is the value their employer - and some of their colleagues here - put on them and their work.

If you don't like my opinion, or my style of posting, like I have told all before you - put me on ignore.