She-Hulk - Disney+ (***Spoilers***)

Jodie Comer (rightly) here great kudos for her shapeshifting in Killing Eve but Maslany never got the same kudos. I suppose because Orphan Black was considered so niche (oh that nerdy thing with, what, clones or something). When you compare the light touch here to some of the characters on OB, that is astonishing.

I have to be the most patient man today that I actually finished this pilot episode - considering the first minute of the show literally is the most off putting opening scene and dialogues in the history of films/tvshow.

Absolute abomination, this is beyond my lowest expectation.

Me and the missus finished this pilot and I didnt say a word - and this post is the last time I spoke about this show.

Wasn't the best opening episode

Breaking the fourth wall seems a bit too forced for my liking

Bruce seemed to carry the episode

Didn't have high expectations but enough there to come back for another episode

Ah yeah. I mean it's fun. It's not going to change the world. I thought the same about Hawkeye. A pleasant fun romp.

Okay start but didn't connect with the newer characters as quickly as I did with Ms Marvel - though it is rare a show clicks like that.

Agree with the Bruce carried a lot of the episode, they really did a great job of showing how broken and lost he is with all his closest friends being gone. As many have mentioned, there was great onscreen chemistry so interested to see how it stands now with him presumably taking a step back in future episodes.

A bigger thing is probably that it would too much overlap with the recent Thor movie.

It would also make the show too Bruce focused, him agonising over the decision and then how it impacts him afterward. With it being a fluke accident means he can feel some ownership to try to train her like we saw in the first episode but not the kind of pressure he'd feel if he'd made the decision for her.

I'd say it's just them keeping an eye on other powered people.

I think the way she got the powers here works much better as a blood transfusion takes away her agency, someone is making the choice for her whereas as you say, an accident is just that. Also I think it makes more sense that Bruce would be unwilling for anyone to be exposed to his blood, I actually rewatced TIH recently and the first scene is Bruce cutting himself in the bottling plant and shutting it down so he can wipe it up.

The rewatch got me thinking if we might get a secret cameo from Tim Blake Nelson an The Leader, who is also exposed to Banner's blood in that film.

I'd be more concerned about acknowledging Betty Ross's continuing existence. Even it's a case that Liv Tyler doesn’t want to reprise the role, fine. Cast somebody else.

I don't know. A lot of the dialogue here was really, really tiresome. Jennifer has just been turned into a super-powered being that is related to her cousin's condition that has in a lot of ways ruined the last 15 years of his life. It's cost him everything he has worked for as a scientist. It cost him the woman he loved in Betty and led to him falling in love with Natasha who recently died. It has led to him losing control and being responsible for large scale death and destruction. It has led to his own self being buried in his body and losing years of his life on another planet. He has had to find a way to control his emotions to an almost inhuman degree. And she is just whiny and smug and ranty about how terrible life is for women.

She displays no self-awareness, no empathy, no connection to reality. I mean she's not able to remain self-aware as a hulk because she is better than Bruce but because she has a hell of a lot less hulk in her. Obviously it would be normal to not want this to have happened to her. She really liked her normal life and it would be normal to be sad, angry, scared and in denial about how it's changed. It would be normal for her to take a while to realise that actually, she's kind of hit the jackpot here. She has just gotten a lot of great things about being a hulk, a huge boost of strength and invulnerability without the drawbacks of losing her mind. The show would have worked a hell of a lot better if she had sympathy for the curse this has been for Bruce, terror at the thought that she might share his fate now. Relief to learn she's in control in her hulk state and to then attempt to ignore it and get back to her old life before realising it's not possible and starting to really enjoy what has happened to her. Instead she's just an asshole to her cousin. If Ripley, Sarah Connor, Buffy or The Bionic Woman, who was part of the inspiration for her, had been smug assholes, who took every chance they could to lecture about the difficulty of being a woman, they wouldn't have been enjoyable either.

I am, not just a woman, but a very small one. And guess what? Going through life physically weaker than nearly everyone is something that I have to be aware of. It does make me vulnerable and I have been victim to it because there are men, a lot of them, who look for easy victims and I am one. It doesn't even matter that I'm really athletic and physically fitter than most people, a small, out of shape man could pretty easily over-power me and I have to figure that into a lot of the decisions I make through life. But that's not half of my personality. It's just life and in actuality, I mostly feel lucky that I live in a time and place where the drawbacks of being female matter less and I can enjoy the benefits more because there are also benefits to being a woman/drawbacks to being a man. Listening to Jennifer rant about it isn't validating or empowering or thought provoking, or worst of all for a tv show, entertaining. It's annoying and boring and not even remotely comparable to Ripley or Sarah Connor or the Jennifer Walters of the comic books.

World War Hulk set up.... I get that

Shang Chi and The Eternals... how?

Thunderbolts... I get that...

Wow did they just bring Wolverine into the MCU.... how?

Sounds like i need to finally watch Shang Chi and Eternals.

Even the beautiful Gemma Chan couldn't save The Eternals... interesting end credit scene though....

Absolute nonsense, it was a cult show but when it came to the critics she certainly got her just deserts.

I mean she obviously won more awards for her roles in Orphan Black than Jodie did for Killing Eve, what is this comparison??

2: That was brilliant! That ending was just so well set up! The episode was structured so well for it.

Liked the mid credits scenes too! 🙂

One thing early in the episode when Jennifer was reading .. the magazine?.. I really liked that it asked about

I like that I got that call right about what would happen in this episode! 🙂

Next up.. I'm guessing is gonna have to be the love interest from the telephone screen! Can't be introducing the love interest too late into the season.. otherwise how're we gonna put them in danger! 😁

Yeah, that was fun.. Liked that episode a lot. Good to see Tim Roth flexing his comedy muscles a bit. Thought the family were pretty funny too. I was almost expecting her dad to do a Teen Wolf and show her was a Hulk too (I know it wasn't canon and actually wasn't going to happen but it gave that vibe). Thought the idea of Titania being, what was it, a superpowered influencer was hilarious (and the blurb about extreme sugar loss. Lol).

Edit: Fixed autocorrect typos

Really enjoyed that ep, so much going on in that 25 minutes, would binge the shyte out of this.

Better than the first episode, the fourth wall was better - but this needs to be a binge watch, drip feed is not working for this show, there is not enough happening in each episode

With the episodes so short, they could have gone halfway house here and maybe release 2 a week.

I thought Tim Roth was great fun in this episode.

Nice to see a bit more of the Pug character as well. Oh and Renee Elise Goldsberry is always terrific (girls5eva so underrated).

That was fun.

I do have one technical problem with the effects for She Hulk and that's the frame rate of Jennifer when she's green. The motion just looks off compared to other actors. It's a bit like a video game character has come into the real world. But then again you only have to go back to, well, The Incredible Hulk to see how far we've come.

This kind of stunt casting just makes me think they went through a list, calling numbers until they found someone.

They really could've done with making Wrecking Crew look a bit more intimidating. The one with the hat looked in his mid teens.

Bunkowski just looked like a douche, which he was meant to be I suppose. Very Stifler-like.

I know she likely has trouble finding suits that fit, but She-Hulk's suit seemed to make her look like her upper arms are restricted.

If you've never seen Orphan Black before and are wondering why we keep hyping up Tatiana Maslany, Channel 4 have just uploaded the full boxset to their streaming service All4.