Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

Ah! So they know when school starts?

That's not what I'm getting at. Do the Cyrillic numbers on their timepieces only start after 11:00?

Not one single parent did? Really? Amazing!

God that's heart breaking...mightn't necessarily be language barrier. Must be a huge change for the kids. Not surprised teacher is worried.

Splitting the 3 lads up doesn't make sense.

In the long run, its best for the families to try to jump in and learnt the language. In a previous career, lots of family history, medical history etc. taken as part of assessment. Several families living here years, never learnt English but always, the teenage children would miss school to assist parents to translate. It became a recurring issue to the point, principals would contact us to complain. Also worked with translators, something always lost in translation or families unhappy with loss of privacy. Parents were frustrated they couldn't advocate properly.

We can all accommodate in translating but learning the language is best for the families themselves.

Once again, asserting something repeatedly doesn't make it true.

its up to him and his family to learn English , they will actually have to do some work / effort

can’t get handed everything

You’re clearly not bilingual if you think a language can be learned in weeks. There are four components to language learning; aural, oral, reading, and comprehension.

It takes years to achieve near native mastery, even amongst children primed for language learning. Those Ukrainian kids aren’t hearing much/any English at home. That will significantly elongate the process.

That would make sense Klaz. Seems like there’s little room for logic.

Frankly, I don’t understand why they simply don’t pursue the Ukrainian curriculum, to ensure that the displaced children keep pace with their contemporaries, ensuring parity when they return home after the time bound EU directive expires.

No ukraine curriculum or teaching in Ukraine because they aren't going home!

That’s what needs to be clarified in this entire scenario. It must be communicated unambiguously to our Ukrainian guests, that when the conflict has ceased, it’s time to start preparing to move home. It may take one or several years, but this is a temporary, time bound situation, not permanent resettlement.

I’m sure many posters have experienced the situation where a house guest outstays their welcome. If the invited guests fail to take the hint, the host usually has to spell it out. In this instance, we’re already seeing rumblings of discontent from the host. This will build to a crescendo if the limits of hospitality continue to be tested indefinitely.

There’s a limit to hospitality / tolerance. If the government don’t signal that intent (which they won’t), people on the ground will. This won’t be an Ireland-only phenomenon.