Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

People tend to marry young in the Ukraine- divorce runs at 42% we are offering a ready made new life for people with the obvious welfare carrot. Our ability to fund all this free for all is fast coming to an end https://www.independent.ie/business/irish/rising-yields-at-ntma-bond-auction-reveal-changed-rate-environment-for-government-debt-41953842.html

I speak three languages and have bi lingual children .I at no stage said a child would be fluent in weeks but a 6-7 year old would defintely have some language and words and language if in school from March until June . I find it worrying for the child if he hasnt as few words and some sentences as the poster I replied to said he hadnt got a single word .

Oddly enough I actually did have a relationship with someone who didnt speak my lanaguage .! Long before Google we used dictionaries ! I know yeh !! I married him and had three kids ! But you took my post out of context I didnt actually say people should use google translate for a full blown discussion .,My reply was to a poster who said that the teacher couldnt even get across what time the kids should be picked up at . I wasnt saying she should teach through google but just to actually get a time of pick up across .A simple little type on google would sort that problem out

Have we stopped counting my posts? Cant post links

You can yes, just not clickable ones, so in your own good time.

Re local hotel rooms, there were none at the time in Clare or Limerick according to newspaper reports. Passengers were bussed back to Shannon at 5am next morning for flight to Boston. Again, can't post links. But keep counting, will get there!

But there is many other counties closer than Dublin?

Galway, Tipp, Offaly, Laois, etc all full?

Weird.

12 as luck would have it is also a number.

As well as not having a smart phone did the teacher not have any fingers?

The "stories" on this thread are brilliant.

I can't see the government encouraging Ukrainians to leave even when the war ends whenever that will be. They don't enforce immigration rules now with a low number of deportations and amnesties for the undocumented. They should have capped the numbers and not paid full social welfare if they wanted to control the numbers coming here. They could have at least reduced the social welfare to cover some of the costs of accommodation and meals to those in hotels. You can't blame the Ukrainians for going to a country that is offering much more than others.

The Temporary Directive is initially for one year and then possibly two periods of 6 months automatically unless the EU council say otherwise. An extra and final year must be approved by the EU Council. We are already 6 months into Year 1. As some posters have observed, Ukrainians are already returning home, in fairly large numbers from Poland and we can probably expect many here to return home as well in due course.

the Ukrainian kid in my 12 year olds class has no English. he joined near the outset of them coming.

It may not help that he has another kid who speaks Ukrainian (from parents) so translates - so reduces the urgency of them learning english - and also the summer months probably meant 2 months speaking no English and all their own language.

I think some kids pick up languages easily not all - I struggled with them always have.

Wrong. Who in their right mind would return to Ukriane. A Ukriane that was known for corruption is now using all its resources and people to fight a war. The country will be broken for generations even if there was a ceasefire tomorrow.

Its fanciful to think Ukriane are somehow going to win a war and rebuild the country in 6 months.

Stop the delusion. They are not going back to Ukriane. Because as you and others are pointing out A, they have no home or B, they have a home but a bomb could go off anytime.

I see very little point enrolling ukrainian kids in schools here, it's all done ar**ways, to be honest.

My child had a ukrainian kid in their class, who was allowed to use phone for translating, but all the girl done was looking at tiktoks and whatever else, no interest in learning, which was kind of understandable because she had zero English. Same was in local primary school. Kids were put in classes with zero english.

they would have been better off creating intensive english classes for them or putting them separately doing online schooling along with ukrainian school curriculum with supervision of course.

the way it is now, it is useless, also often causes disruption for the whole class, as obviously they can't put translator/helper attached to every ukrainian kid here.

But the main mystery to my is how schools magically popped out available places for all those ukrainians, yet i know plenty of Irish kids who got no places in their local school cause "no places available".

The same is now with those modular homes. The government got it all rather swiftly done, but when Irish families had no accommodation, nothing was done. Those who were put in B&B's definitively didn't get catered meals three times a day for them, and had to sort their kids schools themselves, sometimes going to the other side of towns because nearest school would not take them. And no, those people/family are not all waters/junkies, etc contrary to popular opinion. Rent market and property market in general has long gone mad, a lot of people find themselves in a very difficult position, but our Government was/is in no hurry to dig out extra money out of their stash to help out those people or at least to help out with school/creche places.

The sad relality is most of the politicians signing off these freebies and allowing unlimited Ukrianinans in are doing it for Political gain in the EU institutions.

They are already elected here, when they lose the next election they will want a new Job.

Given that Ukraine was blocking military age men from leaving does that mean that the majority arriving in Ireland are women, children and men outside military age? If so, does that also mean that when things eventually settled down there will be a massive influx of men under the joining family conventions?