Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

You really are clueless. Have you ever lived in a non-English speaking country for a sustained period?

The country in which I worked, had significant numbers of third generation migrants i.e. the grandchildren of the original migrant wave, who still struggled with language proficiency. Language acquisition comes down to exposure and aptitude. Some people are inherently better at learning languages; others face a huge struggle. Children who mix primarily with those from the same cultural group and who are not exposed to lingua franca of the host nation at home, face very significant challenges across all four components of language acquisition.

That was perfectly clear from your reply, and my own, and Maryanne's, but no, some are just interested in shouting down anything practical/positive if it's not advancing the "they're all a problem" narrative.

Which jobs exactly?

Many of the Ukrainian kids in my area are attending their own schools online, several have been told if they don't, they would be held back a year on their return. The teenagers here attend the Ukrainian schools early hours before Irish school starts. For those where classes are live, I presume some may homeschool via online school.

I don't know where they got that "1 in 4 ukrainians are working" bit. Honestly. I do hope that is a true reflection of reality, but i have my doubts. In the surrounding areas nearby there are now several hundred ukrainians, including men of fighting/working age.

In the town nearest to me, out of 70-odd staying in the local accommodation, only one girl took up a job and left it after two months, apparently "she didn't like it". This is info from the local activist who runs around organizing trips and days out, gathers "only new clothes with tags" and all that stuff for the ukrainians, while they spent their days hanging around town, sitting in cafes and vaping in the local green area. The town held a tidy town initiative, only two ukrainians joined, the rest refused to participate, point blank. i know it is not a job as such, but surely it would be a curtsy gesture to help out a little when you are asked by people who held out their hand to help you.

Hmm, during Covid though parents managed. not trained. school books, curriculum etc all available online. yes, not easy but doable. There ukrainian schools that have online classes going.

The links to CSO have been provided several times on thread.

But again that is moot.

Evidence of your claim that only 48 are working, in your own good time.

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That seems to be an Irish mindset. It's predominately where the bitter jealousy manifests itself, particularly on this thread. It's a minority though.

Again, it's an minority Irish mindset Not a Eastern European one and particularly not a Ukrainian one, you just need to look at the pace at how they are taking up jobs and job activation initiatives.

I imagine a few of our own work shy will be fairly sweating it at their next job activation meeting, 'but but but me knee' 😉 may not garner the same level sympathy as it did in the past.

Wil you stop with the deflection, this is not about Irish on welfare thread.

One or 2 might get a wage from a tech company and work from home. No Ukrainian is going to take a level entry job and risk losing the benefits. With the free stuff they are getting they would be down money ffs.

They wouldn't be able to afford rent never mind anything else.

Irish people said the polish were lazy when they came over 20 years ago? Absolute rubbish - quite the opposite in fact. You must be confusing them with the Roma who enrich us. Have u ever been to Ireland?!

Nope same xenophobic lies and bullshít as towards Ukrainians.

Even on here, if the search function was working I'd link you up.

The Polish worked and pay their way. If they were lazy they were lazy and paid rent, bought food, cars, clothing ect.

Polar opposite of the Ukrianinan situation infact.