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England International Cricket Summer 2022

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  • Registered Users Posts: 35 Charger By Jove


    Needs to be a very good player to captain a side with the gloves on.

    Although let's be fair the Saffers have bowled superbly.

    Sucked the life out of the innings. Bairstow has only come down the wicket once so far. Suffocated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Poor by Wiley, misses a straight one…took his eye off it….79/7…. Jeez…some hammering



  • Registered Users Posts: 35 Charger By Jove


    My word this batting is terrible.

    Shamsi on a hat-trick.

    I mean, Shamsi for goodness sake.



  • Registered Users Posts: 35 Charger By Jove


    Full disclosure - I've turned over to the lady footy....🤣



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    7 wickets for Saf’s spinners, England afraid to bowl theirs while SA milk the leggie for an easy, unthreatened 33 runs.

    Agree on Buttler, he seems to have fallen into a trap of being over analytical and trusting it all on the matchups and data. Seeing how valuable Morgan was as captain alone now.

    Will they drop Roy? His 8 off 15, or 18 off 20 performances are putting serious pressure on the rest of the batting unit. I’d probably throw Malan up there, he wastes a few balls as it is. The bowling attack lacks teeth, can’t blame the injured fast bowlers forever. Topley has done well v India, but Curran, Jordan, Willey, Glesson all samey samey.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Roy isn’t in the squad. I’d say his days as a test player are behind him. Played 5 tests, averaging 18.70…

    no surprise, he’s played in the last 12 years, for 12 different teams across the planet, 5 or 6 different countries… no regard given to anything apart from making £$£$£$£$….so it’s no surprise he is being paid no regard by those picking the test team, he hasn’t performed and he isn’t dedicated.…Stuart Broads test average is higher…

    id guess this is tomorrow’s 11.

    Lees

    Crawley

    Pope

    Root

    Bairstow

    Stokes

    Foakes

    Broad

    Potts

    Leach

    Anderson



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,096 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Stokes saying the opposition have been talking a lot about England's style.


    He's making a mountain out of a molehill, Elgar was asked directly what he thought of England's current style, simply said it can go South very quickly (which it obviously can) and he doesn't think there's longevity in brave cricket. Hardly a terrible slight on England's methodology or players.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,071 ✭✭✭boccy23


    SA win the Toss and will bowl



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    25/2 after 9

    Crawley thick edging to the boundary and next delivery, just hangs his bat and thick edges to the slips… playing again like a goofy tail ender.

    as I type Pope survives an lbw shout by two inches.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    55/4.. Bairstow livid with himself… smashing the top of the advertising with his bat as he exits the field..having missed a bolt straight delivery one that was 94 mph fair enough but bolt straight, into middle stump a third the way up… can be no excuses, tail ender-esque ..again…

    Root unlucky with the lbw before him, bad shot but only clipping the top of off.. a millimetre or so doing for him.

    ball swinging around corners here…



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    Unusual that's Pope's LBW shout was more out than Root's but yet Pope continues whilst Root is back in the pavilion.

    The 6 week break from test cricket has obviously not done any good for Jonny Bairstow who was seeing it like a football back then. Always vulnerable to getting bowled early on. Crawley gone again the same way as usual and is stealing a living at the moment albeit that it has been incredibly tough for batting.

    Pope has looked a cut above the others at the moment and interesting to see how Stokes goes about his innings after his ultra gung-ho nonsense in the previous test matches this summer.

    Easy to see how South Africa are top of the Test Championship table. Their bowling attack is quality here. Jansen is quite the find for them and has been swinging the ball around corners this morning. They pretty much have all bases covered and we haven't seen Harmer yet who has terrorised county cricket line-ups for years. Their batting looks average on paper and I'm intrigued to see how they will get on against Anderson and co.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Captain goes last ball before lunch… a lazy looking, unfocused, disinterested shot… like he was distracted thinking about his Caprese salad that he’d be having for lunch. The partnership was beginning to motor… 100/5…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Ben Foakes with an ungainly prod, drags the ball back onto his stumps 116/6.

    8 batsmen have taken the field, just 2 have attained double figure scores.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Pope might as well play himself in for two overs and then throw the bat at it…Broad, Leach, Potts and Anderson …. On current form you’d be lucky to get 50 runs total from…



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    England getting a bit of a tonking so far from South Africa here.

    Root looked out of sorts while Pope and Crawley both missed straight ones from Maharaj. Surely the end of Crawley now which should have been done before the summer but yet they have dragged it out for some unknown reason.

    South African bowlers are well on top and apart from Pope in the first innings, no English batter seems to have looked comfortable at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Root too, getting himself out to a shot that Alan Mulally would have winced at.

    Bairstow gets a good one as I type, line and length beat him.. gone.. 81/4



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    Taxes, death and England batting collapses the three certainties in life. Will Stokes save England's bacon yet again?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,096 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    England given a lesson by the South Africans, not just in the super helpful conditions of their first bowling innings but in this one as well. Outplayed and out thought England from minute one. I'd imagine Elgar will be pretty pleased about things at the moment.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    England...So far with one wicket to fall and only 9 scores of 10 or more runs... over two batting innings.

    Cause for worry.



  • Registered Users Posts: 284 ✭✭nice bit of green


    A poor 3 days play from them but I let’s hope they win the 2nd the make the 3rd test interesting.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Wonder will the management and captain have the nerve to ring the changes ? My guess is no.

    Stokes I’d say is a ‘back our lads’ kind of leader…

    back getting results before backing the lads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Speaking of backing, the bookies are really not following any consistency… some are backing England and some SA.

    one thing not being backed is a draw. Forecast is favourable with rain unlikely during any of the scheduled play and only the possibility of a shower or two overnight or before play. 22/23° the average temp…. Perfect conditions.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    Strange decisions from South Africa this morning. They have gone for two spinners and so have picked Harmer instead of the impressive Jansen which presumably is for later in the match but the conditions in Old Trafford today are overcast and look good for bowling and so their hand was forced somewhat because of two spinners to bat first when they won the toss.

    And so at lunch they are 77-5 in tough conditions and now have Harmer in at number 7 who you could argue is already the start of the tail.

    England picked Robinson instead of Potts and despite no wickets for him, he has bowled alright. Crawley once again got picked despite averaging just 16 this summer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    SA could be or should be 6 down...Ben Foakes dropping one off Leach...

    77-5 really in all sorts of trouble..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭byronbay2


    It’s looking like an awful decision by Elgar to bat first. Stokes said England would have chosen to bowl. The ball is seaming all over the shop! England in a strong position but they will have to bat on this pitch too. 😱



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭byronbay2


    Confirmed awful decision by Elgar! Pitch has slowed down, not seaming half as much since lunch. England should get a big 1st innings lead now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    SA 151 all out on day 1…

    England don’t have to do anything risky, just try get to close 120 runs or so on the board and max 2 wickets down, they’d be immensely satisfied with that..

    a sorry looking scorecard from SA, Rabada top scoring with just 36..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Lees goes early, surviving 7 balls to score 4 runs. Probably no shame getting out to what was a really good delivery from Ngidi..but Lees sure could do with a score..4,9,6,56,5,35,4… not impressive.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    Pace again from Nortje does for Pope. 34-2.

    Crawley survived a lbw shout in the previous over. South Africa very much in the game here.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    England close the day out 111/3.

    They’ll be hopeful of knocking off the 40 run deficit without conceding more wickets. That would be a nice platform to attain a healthy 120 plus run lead… some batting to come but a long tail after..



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    The big thing for them is the ball getting softer which should mean that they have a decent lead but as you say they really only have Stokes and then Foakes who hasn't done too much this summer.

    Ball did something all day and there even was a bit of spin for Maharaj and Harmer, so it's hard to see this match lasting too long if that continues. Apparently the Lancashire players say that Day 2 is normally the best day for batting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    One thing I’m seeing, Zak Crawley took 77 balls to amass 17 runs, he’s still there but 77 balls just two fours, a strike rate of 22.08.

    an interesting stat… from both side , 15 batsmen have walked out to the middle, top score ? So far Johnny Bairstow, 38*…. Nobody even getting 40 yet, never mind a half century. Strange.

    weather forecast is set sunny and fair for the remaining days of the test, chance of rain, very low.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    So England 212/5 at lunch.

    Nortje gave England a good deal of trouble in the first hour but Foakes and Stokes had the upper hand in the second. Spinners still getting some action from the pitch but Harmer hasn't bowled too well.

    England lead by 61 and will look to try to get ahead by 150 maybe which would be a huge advantage on this pitch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I was thinking the same, if they can get that 150 lead I’d say the victory is theirs.

    Still that’s 90 more runs with really no batsmen of note, actually only tail enders to come…

    Broad, Robinson, Leach & Anderson

    If Stokes or Foakes get out, the remaining batsman needs to throw caution to the wind and get swinging…

    18 batsmen have walked out to the crease so far in this test. Nobody has scored a 50 yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Ahhhh that’s ridiculously poor umpiring… massive inside edge onto pad, ball changes direction about 6 inches… yet Richard Illingworth gives it out.. shocking. An embarrassment laugh when he sees it on the big screen.

    jeez Ben Stokes is playing well.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 284 ✭✭nice bit of green


    Funny how the same 2 teams play so differently from 1 weekend to the next. That’s the beauty of it I suppose.

    Sets it nicely for a decider (assuming England don’t balls this up of course).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I wonder what Stokes rationale was for turning to Jack Leach before stumps for a few overs ? Bizarre captaincy considering his main strike bowler Anderson only bowled 2 overs.. light fading slightly, Anderson had spent the guts of two days with his feet up in the pavilion then just given two overs…? surely ideal conditions for the quicks… not as if he was turning to Muralitharan, Warne or Kumble… it’s Jack Leach ffs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    So much better by Stokes the batsman. He is far too good to continue throwing his wicket away like he did against NZ and India. Played himself in and then tee'd off. Good old fashioned principles today and less Bazball. Starting with Crawley eating the new ball and making life easier for the rest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Reading that there has been plenty of criticism from writers in the Guardian and The Mail and earlier in the summer Kevin Pietersen regarding the continuing selection of Jack Leach.

    Leach : 1.69 wickets per innings on average…. The number based on 28 tests, 46 bowling innings….

    He is 31 years old…. He is an experienced international cricketer, he’s not going to start taking 3/4 wickets per innings regularly, what you see / have seen is what you get.

    he isn’t an all rounder, he averages a shade over 13 and in those 28 tests he has ONE half century.

    im not a huge fan of Mason Crane who was in the reserve squad… his county record is average but he is only gone 25 and at least he has a degree of youth…throw him in for a test or two.. he sinks or swims… better a shot then continuing with Mr. No Wickets…Jack Leach…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Broad denied a wicket because of a no ball, replay suggesting that the foot, whist not grounded, part of his heel was still behind the line of the popping crease at the point of delivery….raised is fine as per law 21.5.2

    but not fine as per these absolutely clueless umpires which we, the fans, the players and cricket lovers everywhere are having to endure….. absolutely rubbish…

    getting a judgement call re: a catch, lbw wrong, it happens… but not knowing the laws of the sport you are supposed to be qualified to adjudicate on…ICC need to get a grip and jettison some of these incompetents.. a blight on the game.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,096 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Very comfortable win, thought SA might make a better go of it 2nd innings in much more favourable conditions but were pretty poor. England bowled very well though. Still don't really understand SA decision to bat first.


    All set up nicely for last Test.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Speaking of the last test… from the 8th - 12th of September. Play scheduled to start at 11.00 and finish at 18.00. From what I’m researching there is a likelihood in overcast conditions that bad light will be a factor at the tail end of the day.

    wonder why they didn’t elect to start play at 10.30 to try maximise the light situation… given the time of year.



  • Registered Users Posts: 284 ✭✭nice bit of green


    Any chance of the Pakistan tour being postponed what with the flooding?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    It's definitely possible but it is still I imagine a wait and see approach that they are taking.

    Big blow for England today in that Jonny Bairstow had a freak accident on the golf course and is now out of the Third Test next week against South Africa and will also miss the tour to Pakistan and the T20 World Cup.

    His place next week will taken by either Harry Brook or Ben Duckett.

    As for the T20 World Cup, England name their squad this morning aiming to have Bairstow and Buttler open the batting with Jason Roy completely dropped. They named an extended squad to tour Pakistan and the fight to replace Bairstow will probably be between Phil Salt and Will Jacks.



  • Registered Users Posts: 284 ✭✭nice bit of green


    Yeah Bairstow out is a bit of a shocker. Massive player for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    Shame for Bairstow particularly with the great form he's in. Cricketers find weird ways of hurting themselves.



  • Registered Users Posts: 284 ✭✭nice bit of green


    Apparently it was entirely innocent and he just slipped. Let’s hope he wasn’t hit by a golf buggy driven by a drunken team mate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,096 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    A particular Aussies inability to play football helped England win the Ashes 😃.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I know golf is in general a relaxing sport but driving a wood off a tee and associated exertion on the body over 18 holes of play and 80 plus shots… it’s certainly physically impactful… I know it was an unlucky fall and not during play ( so we’ve been told ) but should he have been there in the first place is what I’d be asking if I’m Brendon McCullum…




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Was looking forward to this test, until I saw the weather forecast …

    First two days look bleak.



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