The Pushback against Leftism

Nasty bunch of dope smoking proto fascists those libertarian party johnnys.

So you get to say whatever you like and people you disagree with deserve abuse?

Can you see how that may lead to a less than ideal outcome when trying to reach a middle ground?

And if you're trying to insinuate I'm some sort of closeted right winger, I'll need some evidence that extends beyond your personal opinion.

Believe it or not most people aren't either extreme left or right wing loonies, even if you find it hard to believe.

Once again faux pearl clutching about abuse while happy to dish out abuse in your own posts.

None of us know each other in the real world so it is impossible to say what a person is or isn't. What I can say is that from every thread I can remember seeing you in related to social issues you claim to be centrist, yet spend all your time specifically targeting and attacking the perspective of the left leaning posters, with only a rare passing comment about the right is also bad. The amount of absolute toxic right wing posts on this site and I cant remember seeing you challenging them - happy for you to point to examples if I missed them.

If you aren't right winger then 'the left' is living so rent free in your head that you should go talk to someone about it.

So because I take issue with the radical left I'm therefore part of the radical right even though I've stated that I'm not?

The radical right in Ireland is pitiful and has little to no support, I've seen threads on this site telling everyone that the National Party are on the verge of taking over the country, a narrative pushed by the left leaning usual suspects of Boards that has absolutely no basis in fact.

If you want to think I'm a right-wing extremist go right ahead, I'm guessing anyone who disagrees with you is filed under the right wing extremist heading as well.

I've repeatedly stated I'm centrist on this site, if you feel that means I'm really right wing because I take issue with the lefties on this site then that's your problem.

Could you point out the abuse in my posts? Or is any criticism of the left abuse now?

People on the right always see themselves as the victim, it's their stock in trade, a rallying call to get behind.

I never see myself as a victim, but I will always challenge victimising posts wherever they spring from.

Attacking trans people is just the last publically acceptable scapegoat of the right. Its pathetic but it's also very dangerous as people are been physically assaulted as a consequence.

And I think of you read back through my posts I have not abused anyone , I have simply fed out just enough rope for people to hang themselves.

To claim i have abused anyone here is to claim victimhood.

At various times I have challenged people in such a way that by been honest in their reply they express their bigotry. At this point they usually get banned.

Go you.

So no examples then that you can point to regarding your posting record of pushing back against extreme rightwing views on this site? There's plenty of it here so if you are truly what you claim to be then it should be easy. The 'radical left' is just as weak in Ireland and on this site so that's no excuse.

Yes, people who on multiple topics spout extreme ring wing talking points or spends their time only attacking 'lefties' would mean that the only evidence is that they are either actually rightwing or are weirdly damaged in a way that makes them spend their time only taking issue only with left wing points of view. Words mean little when all actions are the opposite.

FYI, I've plenty of posts pushing back on both right wing and left wing topics - I'm more socially liberal and fiscally conservative so it tends to be broken down that way.

So what's the prognosis doc? Am I a terminal fascist?

Why do I need to satisfy your criteria for proving I'm not right wing? Some opinion you have of yourself there.

I'm sorry, but that does not tell me anything of the sort. You'd need to explain why an act about bakers - or an act put forward by Mr/s FL Baker whoever he or she is, for that matter - has any relevance to the debate first.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pi_Bill

I used a simile to illustrate the example? The second part of your statement doesn't make much sense.

Sorry, is what??

There are many untruths in this post.

Tavistock ran one study in the 2 decades it was treating "trans kids" that study proved 98% of children given puberty blockers went on to have cross sex hormones and failed to follow up on how many of that 98% received surgery. If 98% go on to cross sex hormones then its reasnable to assume that many will have surgery - that same study was repressed by tavistock themselves and was only published after a high court injuction deemed it was in the public interest. Does that not raise alarm bells about the practices in Tavistock?

" it takes years of counselling" No it doesnt, whistle blowers and Dr Cass in her review have found that puberty blockers were given out prematurely - in cases after literally 1 or 2 counselling sessions - children were fasttracked for puberty blockers because advocacy groups like mermaids were claiming as people on here have been that children would commit suicide if they werent affirmed. mental health comorbidities were not explored fully and the affirmatitive model of care was adapted when dealing with these children.

So if children were granted puberty blokers prematurely and 98% of those on puberty blockers went on to cross sex hormones then that is a medical pathway for life tht these children are set on.

Affirmative care was adapted despite studies stating that 80% of gender questioning "trans" children revert to their natal sex following puberty. A fact Polly Carmichael the director of Tavistock was aware of and expressed her own doubts initially about the experimental treatments at Tavistock in the early 2010s. "The question is, if you halt your own sex hormones so that your brain is not experiencing puberty, are you in some way altering the course of nature?" ‘[T]he debate revolves around the reversibility of this intervention—physical and also psychological, in terms of the possible influence of sex hormones on brain and identity development’ She said this in 2010 and then oversaw tavistock and failed to monitor, record and follow up with thousands of children who he put through experimental treatment in her service.

Dr Hilary Cass who is tasked with reviewing all that happened in Tavistock has said “the most significant knowledge gaps” in the Tavistock’s treatment were of the impact of puberty blockers.

“We do not fully understand the role of adolescent sex hormones in driving the development of both sexuality and gender identity through the early teen years, so by extension we cannot be sure about the impact of stopping these hormone surges on psychosexual and gender maturation,” she wrote.

“We therefore have no way of knowing whether, rather than buying time to make a decision, puberty blockers may disrupt that decision-making process. A further concern is that adolescent sex hormone surges may trigger the opening of a critical period for experience-dependent rewiring of neural circuits underlying executive function (ie maturation of the part of the brain concerned with planning, decision-making and judgment).

“If this is the case, brain maturation may be temporarily or permanently disrupted by puberty blockers, which could have significant impact on the ability to make complex risk-laden decisions, as well as possible longer-term neuropsychological consequences.”

The narrative is not fantastical if a child questions their gender the parents contact the advocacy groups mermaids in UK and TENEI in Ireland - all of these groups have adapted the affirmative care model - social transition - puberty blockers - cross sex hormones then sex assignment surgery . Add in the social contagion that happens in schools with young children and you have the real problem for everyone. The clincher for most parents is being told their children will be suicidal if they do not affirm them.

The incredible narrative is how affirmative care came to be the model adaptated despite the science. The law suits will come and unfortuantely Irish children referred to Tavistock will be amongst them.