Ukrainian refugees in Ireland - Megathread

It’s highly pertinent Donald. Those who fail to master the lingua Franca of this country have limited opportunity to ever become economically active. That’s relevant to me and every other Irish taxpaying citizen, who should expect, no demand, that those coming here, not be a burden on the exchequer.

So I’ll ask you for the third time Donald, what’s your view of the timeframe around English language acquisition?

And I'll tell you for the second time that it is irrelevant.

How about we require some of the natives up in Letterkenny to also achieve "near native level of mastery of English". Undergraduate degree in English perhaps? Given we are talking about "mastery".

There are also plenty of Letterkenny natives with a self-selected and self-imposed "limited opportunity to ever become economically active" too.....although to be fair to them, part of it may be related to inherited genes rather than being wholly self-selected.

Those who fail to master the lingua Franca of this country have limited opportunity to ever become economically active

The amount of eastern European trades people that I know that would not be masters of "lingua Franca" says you are talking absolute bollíx.

I asked for your views on the expected cadence around language acquisition, such that incomers do not become a burden on the exchequer.

Your response is that Letterkenny people haven’t mastered their native language and an insinuation that they are genetically deficient.

I’ll just leave that there for people to read.

That’s the level of discourse Donald has to offer. An utterly pointless contributor whose entire raison d’etre is to roll around in the mud. I’ll let some of the good people of Letterkenny discuss that with you. I need a shower after this interaction.

Speaking of rolling around in the mud, look who materializes without fail.

Boggles, you don’t know any trades people, Eastern European or otherwise. That’s evident to anybody who has the misfortune to read your posts.

Care to explain how your reference to Josef Fritzel has any relevance to this thread?

Actually, don’t bother. It’s Boggles..

Not that I'd put a livestock pen beyond them at this point, I can't link the article on here properly, so I'll copy the text

"Donegal County Council is investigating another alleged breach of planning regulations in relation to refugee accommodation.

The latest case relates to works carried out at the former Village Court bar in Kilmacrennan.

Major renovations, it is alleged, were carried out there in recent months without planning permission.

It is believed the former pub now houses a number of Ukrainian refugees. 

“A case has been opened and is currently being investigated,” a council spokesperson confirmed to Donegal Daily.

Back in June, we also reported that the local authority is investigating an alleged breach of planning regulations at Orchard Crescent in Letterkenny.

Locals claimed that works were being carried out to change a storage area to refugee accommodation without planning permission.

The council is also investigating works at another premises in the town which is reportedly being done to accommodate refugees."

It's happening left, right and centre.

All we are witnessing now is the exact same thing that has been happening for years upon years. It just has a shot of steroids right now because its the last call on the country, that desperation for the last bit of cash is up for grabs.

Every year that the government's said they were building X amount of houses to alleviate the housing crisis, they were inviting X amount of migrants to essentially negate the building. Hence, measurabpy worse every year than the last.

It is an entirely accurate and fair analogy that the government could have been building housing in Indonesia for all the good it was doing. "Look at all these housing developments in Indonesia that we've funded with your money, isn't that what you wanted, people of Ireland?"

There's nothing new here, it's just on its last hysterical legs, balls to the wall now blatant, and, yes, the emperor is in his nip, like he always has been.

When the money runs out in this country (YOUR money, at the behest of the government), and that's coming like a freight train, the lamh will be held out to the EU to fund the landlords of migrants, and the money will keep rolling to them.

You can bet your last penny on it. The government has, after all.

know of a convent, listed building, hastily converted to dormitory type accomodation - no planning application, no conservation officer to monitor works. Families in old border dormitories with a curtain or partition between strangers. neither direct provision or intake of Ukrainians will cease when it is so profitable.

The irony of you introducing Josef Fritzl into the discussion and the referring to another poster as ‘dim witted’ is lost on you, isn’t Boggles?

This is a poster who thinks it’s possible to be a functional member of Irish society without speaking English.

As I said earlier, it’s Boggles..

It's the easiest without drawing notice, yes.

And you're still on the "I don't believe you" train despite me printing out the text of a news article that states illegal pubs and storage units and so forth are being investigated for housing migrants by the shovelful?

Historically, there are few basement buildings in Ireland....ergo....there isn't anyone building a basement in Ireland to house migrants. Really? THAT is your line of defence against reality? For real?

You're the type of a person that were a tennis ball be held in front of your face, told it was a tennis ball, demonstrated it was a tennis ball, watched an entire tennis match played in Wimbledon with said ball, you'd still state with confidence "that's not a tennis ball".

Well, you'll burn on your insipid hill of ignorance, and you will admit the truth in the end when the flames are up to your neck.

How ironic.

You try to hide your bigoted views behind a thin veil of concern around people not being able to speak English, and yet you yourself don't have the ability to read and comprehend my post.

Morto for ya!