8 year old twins and their 18 year old sister murdered in tallaght

I don't normally comment on threads like this but I'm sick of hearing this mental health BS ... I'm not having a go at you but this was entirely avoidable.

If what I've been informed about the murderers past is true there is no way he should have been out on the street to begin with. A huge list of previous convictions including some violence towards others. It'll all come out soon enough, but soft touch justice system and lifestyle choices shaped this event.

Garda and other officials of the justice system must be sick that previous efforts at dealing with the suspect to have him locked up weren't addressed properly by the court and prison system.

The murderer has blood on his hands but the system that let him run free has responsibility too. But our justice minister will probably push another line in the media rather than take responsibility for the inactions of the justice system under her watch.

Again I'm not having a go at you but this situation was avoidable and mental health supports weren't an issue here, it was the murderer and the justice system that dealt with him.

Couldn’t agree more.

There most definitely are genuine people that struggle with mental health. But the majority of people committing crimes and then blaming mental health are only using it as a get out of jail clause because they know it’s frowned upon to question anyone that says they’ve any issue with mental health.

Being a Guard nowadays must be an absolutely soul destroying job. Catch criminals, bring them to court and then watch them walking the streets again that evening due to a f**ked up justice system and their suspended sentences.

The man that committed these horrendous murders shouldn’t have been out on the streets and I’d say if you were to ask any guard in the local area about him they’d confirm that.

The justice system needs serious overhauling and if it’s a lack of prison spaces that’s the problem then more prisons need to be built. I’d rather see tax payers money going to that than going to solicitors, barristers and judges thanks to our “free legal aid” culture. And forget about building them like hotels with all the mod cons, that’s not going to deter the majority of them from being in there, a prison should be punishment for a crime, not a holiday.

I hate these type of cases. Hearing about the boy who escaped today on the radio was so heartbreaking, he has a hard road ahead of him coming to terms with what happened.

The murder of children is not a crime associated with any one particular socioeconomic group or ethnicity in Ireland. Linking these murders to a particular culture is completely out of order IMO.

Ah here. Come on. Do we need a court to officially decide that the sky is blue too before we are allowed to say it?

We know they were killed. It seems we know who most likely killed them.

What we don’t know is the mental state of the killer. There’s potentially a big difference between murder and manslaughter.

Travellied to the house, barricaded the door shut, and stabbed 3 people to death.

Prosecuted with what offence?

You can't just prosecute people willy nilly for made up offences that don't exist.

No assumptions on my part. He shouldn't have been on the street to begin with but a judge and the legal system let him out on bail while accused of other serious crimes. It'll all come out but some will say he was a hardened criminal prior to these murders. Others will say multiple convictions and previous violence towards others doesn't give an indication that he was capable of such horrible crimes. Others will say when you have a criminal who's capable of being violent and fond of drink/drug anything is possible. These are lifestyle choices and not mental health issues.

The justice system has a responsibility to protect society from criminals, rehabilitation programs within the current system are non existent for the majority of prisoners. Rehabilitation program can work but there's no resources within the current system, especially for drug misuse. It's possible to champion the cause of rehabilitation of prisoners which is very nobile but it you can still question the states current ability to provide rehabilitation services to prisoners. It's very much the responsibility of the the justice minister and the court systems to ensure criminals are locked up and if required in rehabilitation programs. If rehabilitation programs aren't available or the criminal doesn't engage the the responsibility is to protect the rest of society. In this horrible case it didn't happen, a previous violent criminal on bail committed the most horrible acts imaginable and is often the case the family of criminal where victims.

I don't pretend to know the answers but saying this was a mental health issues and not an issue which partly involved the failure of the criminal and justice system does a massive disservice to the victims, the local community and society in general.

When there is an obvious failure in the system such as this horrible event we should all demand better from those given responsibility and the system put in place to protect society.

Just to be 100% clear I don't aim any criticism at the Garda here. They've done their job time and time again but let down by others. Many of them will be feeling absolute dispair at the events in Tallaght.

Taxi and machete are mentioned in the news reports, though some mention a knife instead. I don’t think the identity of the arrested person has been confirmed, so I’m not quite sure why everyone is frothing at the mouth already about tougher sentences etc.

And don’t forget RTÉ and ‘Scare’ Byrne.

First item on the show and a ‘details which some of you may find distressing’ warning which let’s face it has the nation’s ghouls running to the radio to turn up the volume.

I’m not looking for a pat on the back but I turned off the radio immediately.

Absolutely horrendous story, one of the worst I've ever come across in Ireland. There are literally no words....

I am not going to quote any post, but by God, some people would really need to have a good look at themselves and their conduct.