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Electric Picnic 2022 - Here we go again! - **No Ticket Sales / Requests **

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭Stillill42




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭Thundercats Ho


    We had a great weekend.

    Pixies on Friday / Sleaford Mods on Saturday / Khruangbin on Sunday my highlights.

    TCM / Pogueology / Rake the Ashes great too.

    Lovely to meet some of ye at Harvest for a while.

    Absolutely no issues smuggling cans in thankfully.

    it's our final year, but we had some great memories down the years.

    Time for a change of scene next year.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,626 ✭✭✭dasdog


    Any act that invokes "How are they allowed do this" is fine in my book. And I'll include Kneecap.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭Stillill42


    Fair enough. The post was about some ordinary chap looking to watch them getting intimidated out of the tent. Maybe they could come up with another way to fight the power.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    So, back home and thoughts…

    I’m not sure I’ll be getting the loyalty ticket (this was my 12th EP - took a break for a couple of years). Mostly because of being an old fart, and the focus shifting towards the younger crowd (fair play to them), but also the capacity strains. The weather didn’t help. It being a poor line-up year wasn’t too much of an issue - there’s so many excellent Irish acts gigging that it papers over the cracks. The festival seemed slightly ad-hoc on organisation this year - v late scheduling making a hames of clashfinder for early bird arrivals. Plenty of security and stewards without a baldy on any info. 11th hour finishing on Freetown. But no matter.

    My experience - Thurs arrival was a bit later than planned - got caught up in rush hour traffic but no issues once in Stradbally vicinity. The slog from Green car park to Eco was as expected, but I saw Pink Moon punters lost and frustrated at the closed off Freetown entrance - they’d been given contradictory directions by staff. Eco was noticeably jammers even on Thurs, compared to last time out. Hendrix looked full on Thurs night - which made me wonder just how messy it was going to get on Friday.

    Anyways - Salty Dog No Stars w Mik Pyro do the Stones was just the ticket - I do love the old tribute jams on the Dog.

    Friday. Annoying delay on opening the Freetown entrance up means the long trek around to Salty Dog for Monsuier Pompier, Beef Supreme, and a mooch about the arena. Bitta Harvest, then Lime Cordiale, who seemed a bit surprised at the reception they got - imagine if their Whelans gig hadn’t been cancelled on the back of Covid. Great buzz. Little Sims got the crowd going too, and I had less of an issue with the Pixies set - if it keeps Frank from peak grumpiness, it’s a price worth paying. On to Fred Again, and my first oul-lad-past-it moment - the tent was a poor choice for the demand. I did an early flight from Pixies to get in the tent, but after a while I had to leave - it was just getting to dangerous crush territory. Surprised that no capacity management was in place, as it was one of the acts that was obviously going to run the risk of too big a crowd. Escaped to the woefully under-attended Shiv at M&B, and then on to Mother.

    Saturday. Bit of Mindfield meandering, but bugged out of Blindboy after his story - again - capacity not meeting demand. Bit of Havvk, and then possibly the gig of the weekend - Kneecap. Those spides know how to work a crowd, and the entire shtick is on target. As a potential ‘Garda’, I didn’t feel particularly threatened by the call-out about undercover drug squad. In general though, the whole HSE/Drug Squad kerfuffle was outshone by the excellent marketing of the purple skull yokes - someone made out like a bandit. Anyway - Kneecap rocked the joint. Silverbacks seemed eminently sensible after that juvenile behaviour. TCM didn’t hit the spot for me, but probably me. JPEGMafia was another let-down, which required the powers of Gemma Dunleavy to raise me up again. Bonus to see CMAT in the crowd, enjoying herself. King Kong Company were, I’m sad to say, pants. They’ve offered diminishing returns every time I’ve seen them, and this will be my last visit. Now, they’ve always been a bit of a dumb guilty pleasure, but the Saw Doctors style MC’ing, mixed with piss-poor newer material, terrible stage show choices (the robot with the power washer? Really?) have done me in. Their dancer/choreographer is being let down by a bunch of kack-handed creative choices elsewhere. 😞 Frank and Walters for the antidote. Sleaford Mods were my second surprise of the day - I was sure that the Cosby/3 tent was too small for them. Not at all - it wasn’t a big crowd. Excellent gig, which lived up to my expectations. One of the few acts in the initial line-up that kept the flame alive. Then to Malaki in M&B, who was giving 110%. The Cope had difficulties coping with their set-up, but kudos for trying something different. An element of The Beloved about their sound. Back to Mother, then bed in the rain.

    Sunday. The legs are feeling it now, and the muck and news is a downer. Bootleg Beach Boys bring some positivity. And doesn’t ‘Brian Wilson’ look like, eh, Brian Wilson! On to the Mariachi band in Jerry Fish, which by now has the mucky appeal of Tenko. Great act though. Comedy tent for a bit - partially to sit down in something other than mud, and decent sets from Mike Morgan, Martin Angolo, and Michael Fry doing his ‘coinage’ and ‘the neeeeeck’ songs. Then CMAT - who I avoided at ATN, because her Academy gig earlier this year was possibly my gig of the year, and you don’t want to tarnish perfection. Her festival gigs are obviously the condensed version, but her show has become a machine! She’s so on top of her game as a performer, that it’s easy to overlook her real strength as a lyricist with few peers. No idea what I was at for a while, and then Gurriers in the increasingly bleak Salty Dog. Powerful gig. Acid Granny at Trailerpark was a weird one (even allowing for normal Acid Granny weirdness) - the underlying anger in the numbers seemed to become the dominant vibe, and the gig ended abruptly with Taoiseach Shame doing a runner. Maybe I was just frazzled? On to Touts, who, again, had a surprisingly small crowd. Then, I had to concede that the appeal of dragging my tired legs around the damp was’t there, so back to the tent to listen to the, frankly brilliant noise-making of Nancy Live in the woods. My phone was long dead, so I had nothing to point me to who was playing, or what, because it definitely didn’t sound like a DJ. It was a harmonic assault, and one which lived up to any finale rave in the woods I’ve heard.

    Never saw the main stage all weekend, never mind a main stage act. Still have no idea what Picture This sound like.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭Bunk Moreland


    I just used the entrance beside the Pink Moon reception, the one that leads to the paintball entrance. Much quicker and less people about.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,025 ✭✭✭Genghis


    So first my thoughts on the weekend. Overall I really enjoyed myself. Seen plenty of acts, as many I would say as any other year - which I would have thought not likely whenever the big line-up announcement was made. I guess like so many here I made the best of it; I still think we were short-changed a couple of proper headliners and maybe 8-10 proper undercard-ers.

    Highlights would have to be Pixies, Fontaines, Orla Gartland, Silverbacks, Sack, Harvest and TCM. I really enjoyed many more too, Sleaford Mods, Cathy Davey, Khruagbhin, Trouble Pilgrims, Frank & Walters, Kynsey, CMAT, Cable Street Collective, Nixer, Naked Lungs, Arctic Monkeys (2nd half). Then there were others that I caught too little of - these will definitely be ones I won't miss next time:- King Kong Company, Thumper, Camille O'Sullivan.  

    Leading the Disappointments would be Bright Eyes - who I was really looking forward to seeing, and The Kooks - felt distant on the big stage, maybe would have been better in EA.

    Like many I was delighted with the loose security for cans, but would prefer if security was generally good and free flow legitimate. Ironically the 'One Arena' thing works well for you when you have a days cans on your back - I personally used to hate having to "risk" cans to go into and out of the main arena of old. I say Risk - I have never had anything confiscated.

    For the venues, I felt Fishtown was - while brilliant - a little lost in its new location. I visited there a good few times, and often there were very small audiences. It did seem to pick up over the weekend, but wonder will it thrive where it is? Salty Dog felt busier, but obviously its at a major junction now, so some of that is passing trade. I missed the MC Pirate - was he gone in 2019, or just gone this year. Still a great stage and extra seating / shelter a great addition.

    The 3 Music for All stage turned out to be my most frequent tent - between it and Rankins Wood some great shows hosted, over overflowing (witness Kneecap - I had seem them in 2019 in a deserted terminus, a great show but was so mobbed I left it). Incidentally re: nature of the event I happened on 2 Guards who were eying the show from outside while being the subject material on-stage. Got a good laugh from them and anyone around - all in good humour and no disrespect on display.

    I had no issues I have to say with food, all great quality, albeit I avoided the busy times and usually ate at places like Trailer Park or Mind and Body. I can't say I ever queued for any more than 3 minutes.

    In relation to crowding, I think the new layout is much better - I felt less safe from crowd perspective in 2019, the site has more flow and less pinch points.

    That said, I think Terminus is weirdly underused, and Trenchtown / Freetown a wasted wilderness. Anytime I went there they were deserted - Hazelwood likewise. Perhaps its the poor undercard this year, just too many stages to support, not enough draw through the weekend.

    Turning now to the future of the festival. I want to believe that this year was a one-off. I have sympathy for the organisers, they had banked their revenue pre-pandemic, no doubt had pandemic costs (I know they also had insurance), and then had to deal with huge operational costs (though not the 300% rises Benn would like you to think). I know they also have to make a return and I have no issue with that.

    What I think they did is raid the artist fund to meet the operational costs (and keep profit as forecast). That would be why there was maybe EUR 2m less to spend on a couple of decent headliners and 8-10 decent undercards. And you can do that one year and go back to plan - with higher ticket prices - the next year.

    I am worried though that FR will feel this year was a success and can be repeated with a similar line up, maybe even with a similar line-up and raised prices. I was expecting them to abandon loyalty, just wonder now where they set the 2023 price. It is the first indicator of where they are going.

    I agree with all the comments on commercialization / selling out. What I feel is that its not just the real estate that is for sale, I have a feeling its the audience too. I wonder whether its ever a thing that festical *charges* for appearances, not the band as such, but say a record company. We'll bring you this audience, how much will you pay us for the slot? Maybe a stretch, but it certainly felt like we are increasingly being sold artists rather than being presented a curated festival.

    I also feel that when Oxegen was around there was a clear choice of weekend festival - Oxegen or EP, and each had their own market. Oxegen folds, Longitude arrives, but Longitude is not a weekend event (no camping). The Longitude audience look to EP, and maybe as they organise both FR facilitate the huge demand (and disposable income) on offer. ATN picks up the Vintage EP demand, and those tickets are snapped up by Longitude goers, and so it continues.

    I live close enough to get home each night, and I just love EP. I hope in 2027 I am able to say 2022 was the worst year - I can't imagine thinking each successive year is the worst year yet. So I will buy my ticket next week, and I will be back for the coming few years at least.  



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭riddles


    Delete please



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,005 ✭✭✭endainoz


    I think we have said a fair bit over the last few years that they'res definitely a market out the for another oxegen type festival in Ireland. Punchestown needs to be used for the big gigs again, it's been underutilized in recent years.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭Mucker46


    So where do I stand now that I have experienced the festival again?

    Line up

    As commented many times the line up nowhere near as strong as before from my perspective. Is this a once off as the world rerights itself in light of Covid and Brexit or is it a trend that will continue? Hard to know but suspect a bit of both with a larger weight on the latter.

    Having said that I 38 saw full or partial sets (some due to clashes some for poor performances) over the weekend some of which I found brilliant (Tame Impala, Mick and Susan, Wolf Alice, Sprints, Just Mustard, Khruangbin) and the rest largely really good. Despite the headliners largely not being for me I still went to 2 of the 3 main headliners ( TI & AM). I also have to recognise as I get older there will be new popular music I don't like and the younger festival goers should be treated to what they like (this year however with a few notable exceptions thought the youngsters were a bit cheated by a low number of international acts).

    Demographic

    It definitely looked younger however is this really a surprise as it is likely that the additional capacity was picked up by a younger demographic as those older heads that go unlikely to be new attendees. Have to say they didn't annoy me that much.

    Commercialism

    Annoys the he'll out of me but always been an issue and it does generate funds to support the festival (I know and FR)

    Areas

    Did I feel pushed out of the main arena? To an extent however most of my yesterday was Rankins, 3 All for music and Electric Arena with a good smattering of the main arena on the other days so still plenty for me. Think the addition of fishtown and the work on salty have been great additions but they need to do more with Freetown and terminus to spread the crowd more.

    Based on the above I while there were concerns I still had a brilliant weekend of a great variety of music and I changed my mind and will definitely buy a ticket and likely will go.

    One of thevreal highlights of the weekend for me was meeting so many people from here, each and everyone of you are super people, even met a lurker, you know who you are. I go on my own as I enjoy the freedom to go and do what I want, and herself has an aversion to portaloos so will never come. However it is really nice to share the experience with others and through you I get both. Go to what I want regularly meet a boardsie, share the gig and a chat after and then go our own ways so big thanks to all of you.

    Last point

    Most annoying thing of the weekend, men who make the effort to go to the toilets and then p*ss against the fence 2 foot from a free urinal WTF


    Roll on next year, how many sleeps Scruff?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭nc6000


    Yes, I can't understand why they do that - loads of free urinals but they prefer using the fence. It's weird.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,792 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    Doubt it.

    reacted saturation point, sure longitude and fairview shows did poorly this year.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,739 ✭✭✭MyPeopleDrankTheSoup


    how do all you boardsies recognise each other if you've never met?



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Anyone with grey/no hair in the vicinity of These Charming Men, Harvest, or Jerry Fish heritage acts, is suspect. Also any washed-out indie teeshirts.



  • Registered Users Posts: 287 ✭✭HarryTheSpider


    Home now and too lazy/tired to do much more than a half arsed attempt at drying the tent out. It can all wait until tomorrow.

    Had great weekend overall. There were some bad and some good points. I might write up a few at some stage in case Melvin is checking our vast festival organising knowledge for any tips for EP23.😉

    It was great to meet up with those of you that I did meet and I'm sorry I didn't manage to meet others that were there.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭Mucker46


    We say where we are meeting and tshirts we are wearing. There was also a photo from the last meeting and think keplar has a few from this year that might make an appearance



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭lbj666


    Interesting reading, i would have thought the rain would have been to the main talking point of the weekend kinda felt sorry for people on Saturday night.

    Festival landscape is a funny one , for ten years the market has insisted of only paying €200-240 ish for a music festival despite the costs of gigs elsewhere and everything else going up in that time.

    The result is weaker line ups, more people, less frills more corporate placement more expensive food drink etc.

    Kids deserve their party folks and i dont think there is room for another camping festival to cater for them without diluting the line up everywhere else. Or at least not without booking the **** EDM stuff or more hip hop like at longitude. I dont think any promoter is willing take on the potential fallout of any incident arising from the type of crowd that could attract (might be a bit unfair on longtitude).. oxegen and SHM is still fresh in the memory.

    Anyway i am probably too old for festivals anyway to worry about a similar demise to ATN.

    WORD OF ADVISE DRY OUT YER TENTS AS SOON AS YE CAN



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭Stillill42


    Excellent question. I think it's the obvious aura of middle aged decay emanating from each of us. That or the photo that went up from the last meet up. Some people also mention tshirts that they might be wearing that day.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,005 ✭✭✭endainoz


    The signage seemed to be a big issue alright. At one point on Saturday, a group of young last came up to me asking where freetown was, then as I was standing there two more came up to me looking for Rankins woods, then another looking for EA and salty dog. I must have the appearance of some EP elder or something 😂😂.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 287 ✭✭HarryTheSpider


    The T-Shirts/grey hair combo could lead you astray and you could end up talking to (complete) strangers.

    The photo helped. And random luck of sitting on a bench beside Seathrun. It was all downhill from there. 😉

    Now my cover is blown I'll have to head to South America for that plastic surgery I've been putting off for a while now. I might get that tummy tuck as well.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,025 ✭✭✭Genghis


    @Still Ill


    Trial and error. Albeit I am not good at this.

    On 2 occasions I misidentified a boardsie (only got it right with one - hey @Stillill42). Then again I congratulated a randomer on his Nixer show, thinking he was the lead singer. I later spotted the girl from Silverbacks but decided against saying anything.

    Maybe we need our own festival band. Maybe for next year!



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,626 ✭✭✭dasdog


    Well there will always be people who don't get it. The problem was in the audience not the stage and some gobshytes intimidating people should not prevent a band that have recently riled the Democratic Unionist Party in similar manner from having a poke.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,310 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    Caravan fire in the camper field this morning. Not sure what happened, it looked like it could have been abandoned, there was no car and didn't appear to be any people looking at their stuff going up in smoke, so I don't think anyone was hurt, thank god.

    Took an awfully long time for the fire brigade to arrive, it's possible that the access lanes were full of campers leaving but it could have gotten really messy if the field had still been full.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭Stillill42


    You got that wrong too, you chancer. It was my brother though so close enough. It was lovely to meet you Genghis.



  • Registered Users Posts: 375 ✭✭Shank Williams


    Kneecap sound cringe as ****- loads of little middle class rebels chanting along about undercover cops- pass the sick bag



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,005 ✭✭✭endainoz




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭tvercetti


    Arrived around midday Friday, definitely more traffic than past years at that time but I was quicker than ever getting my wristband. Straight into Eco Woodlands for a feed of cans. Eco felt a lot busier than last time but still tidy and plenty room to sit out sipping. Glass Animals, Pixies, Fontaines with a bit of Kinara, great night all round. Rain was making a start as I was calling it a night.

    Went straight in Saturday morning for a bit of Pieman and the area was noticeably busier around midday but I'd put that down to people being sick of the sight of there wet tents and going for a wander. Generally floated between Main and Electric. Lyra, Becky Hill, KKC etc. Finished the night below in Jerry Fish with Dec Pierce. Another good day.

    Up to that point, I'd never have guessed there was 20k extra people. Although it does look like people are arriving a good bit earlier in general and the demand for Eco growing. 

    Sundays I always dread a little. I avoid drinking too much which might be part of the problem. I no longer take much notice of the 18 to 25 year olds but on Sundays, there always seems to be a flood of 13-16 year olds dragging eachother around. Not sure are they locals who get day passes or what's the story. Stuck it out for Snow Patrol and Arctic Monkeys, both very good but they did drag a little in the middle for me.

    Previously the portaloos were pretty much as good as u could expect, always toilet roll and lads spraying them down full time but they seemed to be abandoned this year.

    Now I have to deal with this pain the hole. This is the response I got when I emailed pictures of wristbands and ticket receipts. I don't have any past purchase on my account itself. 3 hours to the nearest kiosk.

    "If any or all of your Electric Picnic Ticket purchases were from Ticketmaster Kiosks, you will need to return to one of our Loyalty Registration Kiosks on Weds Sept 7th, and Thursday 8th Sept with valid proof of purchase."



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭traco


    I'll be buying again next weekend, not sure if I will go or not though. If I don't it won't be becuase of this year. Had a great time and saw a massive amount of acts and discivered several new artists which is what makes EP for me. Not sure if that is possible at other festivals.

    Gripes, staff didn't seem very well briefed on site layout, what was and wasn't permitted etc etc. Signage was also very poor and on Thursday the sign that was fixed at Salty Dog was mounted 90 degrees out. They did seem to fix that at some stage on Friday but for any first timers it would have caused a lot of hassle.

    There were a lot of issues on Thursday with physical tickets from 2020. I was one stopped and sent to tickmaster station at the paintball entrance. Girl I dealt with was obnoxious and in no way interested or helpfull as I was concerned about others arriving the following day on tickets I had booked.

    I didn't see anyone on the main stage but walkewd by a few times and it all seemed fine. General behaviour was fine. I had no food issues but I don't care what I eat so when hungry I'm going for the shortest queue - problem solved.

    Did walk to entrance one on friday from SD and the camp sites were mayhem and a distinct smell of crap and that was Friday. I would think they really should address the general camping space and enlarge to accomodate the numbers in some sort of safety and comfort. Glastonbury doesn't have that problem and while the areas are fully they are well orgnaised and seem self policing.

    I was at kneecap, on my own. I'm around 6'4" and had no issue at all, thought it was a geat gig but do hear what people are saying about there style. The way I saw it 99.99% were ther to have a great time and there will always be the few nutters with a chip on their shoulder or feeling inadeqaute and that they need to prove something. Thing is you are as likely to encounter them idiots in a queue for a coffee as anywhere else. Dickheads are just dickheads.

    One thing I would like to see is a bit better lighting from main arena to EA, Rankins and up to trailer park as its very open and quite dark at night. More bins would be nice and I can't understand why the urinals aren't like glastonbury which is basically half a waving pipe all the way round the fence like a roof gutter. Simple and takes some talent to miss it.

    So, in summary delighted with the weekend even though based on what we knew the week before was putting me off. Will I go next year - not sure and will depend on what else is planned during the year but I will have tickets and a pink moon booking just in case.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 500 ✭✭Dutchy


    The good -

    Pixies, Sleaford mods, kneecap TCM,Ham sandwich (no love here for them here?)Sound neighbours in pink moon. Pretty much free flow with the booze .

    The bad

    Queues, 5 quid for an Americano, singnage, main stage

    The ugly

    Vendors charging sterling instead of euro, weather at times, waking up this morning

    Interestingly, got chatting to lad who works in the festival food business . He said EP were crying out for vendors but the cost is prohibitive (citing 7.5k to set up in main arena and another 2.5k to plug into electricity etc.) Not sure if he was talking out of his hoop (sounded legit) but would explain the high food costs etc.

    Top tip for 2023. Sliced Breannans bread, cheese and onion crisps along with butter , coleslaw and ham (in with your cool box booze ) and plastic cuttelry - sambos sorted up until Sunday for me.


    I'll definitely by buying a ticket for EP 2023. Been to all of them bar one (the year blur played). Yes it has changed but still migthy craic and well worth the cost of admission



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