8 year old twins and their 18 year old sister murdered in tallaght

Absolutely tragic for any family, no matter where they come from or who they are.

I don't see why those two things matter to this sad sorry case.

Two children and one adultesent are vicously slaughtered bringing an end to probable long lives and the remaining family members lives are affectively finished.

And yes I label the killer as evil.

I couldn't fooking care less if that term offends non religious types.

Sadly the perpetrator gets to live out the rest of his live.

That is the only shame here that the AGS didn't do society and mankind a favour and use lethal force rather than waste resources on something one cannot label as human anymore.

Like some other posters I am tired of mental illness being used as a crutch and an excuse.

Yes they are lots of mentally ill people but they don't go around slaughtering people.

I am tired of a mental health system failing society and families.

Ah yes we will get a report, apologies and the usual blattering after the fact.

And yes we had a society once upon a time that was only too happy to put everyone and anyone that didn't fit the perceived societal norms in what was termed "the big house" and that seriously needed to be stopped.

But now we have swung the pendulum too far the other way, and don't bother doing anything about those with serious warning signs.

I am also tired of our revolving door justice system.

I have long cited the results of the failure of judges to listen to concerns on bail, the failure of our justice system (judiciary and politicians) to adequately sentence and provide for sentences for habitual and serious criminals.

Of course the US is trotted out as an example of the failure of things like three strike rules and long sentences, yet no one mentions there can be a medium approach and not one where seriously dangerous individuals get to walk amongst us.

And if anyone thinks this individual will see proper justice then they are deluded.

If society is lucky he will get concurrent life sentences.

If he doesn't then his legal team will appeal like in another child murderer case and the family can be left to ask which child's live is the only one that mattered?

A life sentence is what about 18 years with time off for good behaviour, time off becuase he pleads guilty?

If he is found to be mentally ill then he will probably be out even sooner if he gets a gullible enough shrink to sign him off as being no longer a danger.

I am sick and tired of seeing perfectly avoidable and preventable needless deaths of innocent individuals, because of the ar**holes who push their agendas all the while they are usually making money out of the lax system.

A life sentence should mean just that.

For those lamenting the lenient sentencing that typifies the Irish justice system, we can talk about the reasons for it, the rights and wrongs of it, different theories of penal justice, reform vs punishment etc, and which strand the Irish system has adopeted, untill the cows come home. It is all just waffle.

The truth is that the reason for the lenient sentences is much more practical in nature - there isn't anywhere near enough prison space to accomadate all the people we might like to send to prison. Prisons are all at bursting point as it is, not to mind sending fellas to prison for stealing cars and shoplifting.

All well and good for a judge to send a fella to prison for 10 years over something. Not much use when he gets there and the governor tells them that he can't take him because they are full beyond capacity, and they just release him on licence again.

Then we will have the cries of "build more prisons". But that is unlikely to ever happen in any significant amount, for several reasons:

1. like any Irish project, it would take an eternity to be realised and cost a million billion dillion squillion euros by the time BAM get wind embroiled in it. Add to that, all sorts of objections from locals, social justice warriors, environmentalists, as per usual
2. There would be no votes to be got out of it. No-body wants a prison in their area. There are votes in building roads, filling potholes, building houses, and schools and hospitals. Not for prisons, or the army.
3. Look at the Childers Hostible - something I think everyone would agree in principle is necessary, and a worthwhile investment. And look at all the shite going on with it, from not agreeing and taking 10 years to decide where to build the bastardin thing, to the ballooning costs, to people already saying it'll be unfit for purpose and a failure before it even is built.
4. Take all that and multiply it times a thousand for building a prison.

At taxpayers huge expense of course. It's a joke.

Maybe people can turn down the dramatics before the inevitable lament on the Irish justice system gets re-ignited?

Previous convictions for burglary and theft but nothing worse than that. Why on earth would anyone insist on keeping someone locked up for this?

It’d be interesting to find out why the previous attack against someone in the family didn’t lead to a conviction, and whether the treats were ever reported. Sounds like there was a lead up to the event.

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/arid-40155563.html. Another case. Not sure if he got parole..

But anyone found guilty of such crimes should not be entitled to apply for parole, particularly so early in their sentence.

Not sure how as a mother you can carry on with life after witnessing such horror but please god having other children will give life some meaning.

Whst do you do with the perpetrator of such a crime? He must never see the light of day again.

I don't think anyone could ever be the same person they once were after experiencing that level of trauma and grief.

Personally I would have had the help vacate themselves and the kids to one of the many safe-rooms

In America he would likely have been armed with a semi-automatic rifle....