"Green" policies are destroying this country

Zeihan was interviewed at length last month here:

An absolutely content free post. Something this thread has been drowning in recently

Lol. Your hypothetical boiler repair costs 250. Gas boilers last 10 years before they're knackered and need to be replaced. It's about 2k for gas new boiler for most houses.

The 8k for this specific brand of storage boiler is expensive, but it's not the 60k that the poster I was responding to declared to be the cost

Guess what. Owning a house requires that you pay to maintain it.

If you have a water leak, do you advocate that the home owner can just ignore it because it's too expensive to fix?

If your roof is damaged, just ignore it until the roof falls down....

Government supports are available for the low income households. Everyone else needs to keep up with the maintenance of their properties

I wonder would we ever see a news headline like this:

Weather alert: 2022 Atlantic Hurricane Season is pretty boring!

First season since 2014 not to have a pre-season named storm. No tropical storms formed in August for the first time since 1997. Hurricane Danielle finally arrived on September 1st, the first season since 2013 to have its first storm this late. However, it's expected to fizzle in mid-ocean so won't deliver any headline-grabbing carnage. Climate doomsters hoping for a more doom-laden second half to the season.

Still waiting for you to show us the smart metre plans in Ireland that have low cost electricity to make these electric boilers viable......

Also these yokes require an internet connection and have a £20 a month "service charge". Still reckon they are a good idea??

Apologetics? lol

I do not care a bit about russia and even less about ukraine. What I despise is lazy blame shifting and fanatics trying to invent "science" to fit their religious beliefs. Not a peep from your saint Greta for the last 2 years isn't it? Why would she bother. She did and said exactly what Svante told her to do and say, they collected their paychecks and pretty much retired after wrecking half of the world economies.

The lights did go off for people who could not pay their electricity bill and their option is use a pay as you go meter. The customer dis-service people from the energy supplier I was with, called me up to tell me the ESB were calling to disconnect me within the hour. Somewhat surprised I said, really? It turned out if was a case of fat fingers, and some poor sod in Wicklow was getting disconnected for not paying.

The issues being discussed in the thread, concern the circumstances that lights would go out given the current planning intentions of the government to go with 70% random energy generation by 2030. It has been pointed out that there is a single point of failure in the system around the Moffat line that will become more acute as the decade progresses.

1. The electricity generation system depends entirely on gas to make up any shortfall from wind and solar.
2. Native gas supplies (Corrib) will go into decline after 2025 with no new supply in sight.
3. Tarbert (2023) and Moneypoint (2025) will be shutdown if declared intentions are pursued.
4. There are no gas storage facilities as a buffer, in event of disruption of a single source like Moffat.
5. Extended cold weather conditions may cause a run on gas supplies.
6. Both the CRU and professional bodies have warned the government over the past several years.
7. Hopium is not a viable alternative.

This year we need the weather Gods to deliver a mild Winter, imagine the economic situation when significant number of customers cannot pay. Not only do people get disconnected in the Spring, they may be significant cash flow problems for the energy suppliers.

Climate NPHET out in force today with the scaremongering and demanding the little people pay more and more.

The standard of posts on this thread has gone from awful, to unbelievably awful

I think I've read 5 or 6 posts in a row on here where someone has accused the greens of being either communist, or fascist, or both

I think someone left the door of the Conspiracy Theories forum open and they've infested the site

As opposed to you spoofing about "cheap electricity" that does not exist. The standard is gone down indeed.

I think we’re walking into a lot of businesses closing and a lot of unemployment.

Non existent super connectors.

Non existent battery storages.

Green hydrogen.

And some more of fantasy technologies which so far exist only in green heads. Who is wearing tinfoil hat?

I would consider myself in the middle, considering the extremes of Climate panic and a overtly market driven solution to everything. We should take a practical stance and consider the impact of particulars in light of the whole. A balance that considers our geography first with a benefit to risk analysis where the various ideas clash with each other and find the best solution to problems arising. That takes a lot of effort and doors should remain at least partly open say for instance nuclear power.

Ideoloques do not like benefit to risk analysis because it shows their flawed thinking but every business on the planet cannot do without. Government/state institutions do it as well if they are not run by ideologues. Politicians just wait until it is clear which way the wind blows but are often swayed by the same kind of people in their boat regarding their stance and they dont like to be pushed out and are afraid of change. They only move in fear of losing votes. So now you notice some changes due to the current crisis and the pressures people are under. In the media there is continued reporting on hardships but mainly focus on what the government can do to lessen the burden in terms of tax, energy caps etc. They are overall on board with the Green Agenda. No skin off their backs. They can work anytime, anywhere really. They are fine. But farmers and other labourers are another story. The push is to make them comply with the Green Agenda but there is continued push back. Again, it is only a matter of time before politicians will start to worry about votes. Once the Greens are out and this goverment gone politicians will take a second look at reality. However, they have tied themselves to a world go Green agenda and signed up to EU legislation enforcing this with financial penalties for those countries resisting implementation. It remains difficult to get out of. This has been part of the Brexit debate and the conversation continues. We will see individual countries move in various ways. I hope Ireland gets its balance right but atm it does not look promising with the Climate panic still raging which is a continuation of the Covid panic with just a shift in horizon. It makes people really really stupid. It is as if part of their brain has stopped functioning altogether. Psychologically people will aim for the simplest solution in light of extended complexities. We have seen it during Covid and the continued Climate panic. So we are talking about THE experts, THE science (but not the scientific method) THE solution. Well, and i am pushing it here, we all know what happened in Russia and Germany in the 1920s/1930s with the 'simple' solutions. I hope we wont be ending up there..