Clontarf to City Centre Cycle & Bus Priority Project discussion (renamed)

I'd imagine part of the issue with doing that is the sense of entitlement that drivers have. Once they can drive it from 7 to 7, they'll be far more likely to break it at the other times, so they need to be kept off the road at all times.

There's been a marked uptick in drivers breaking red lights, speeding, and using the bus lane since the works began. If drivers are given an inch, they'll take a mile.

What's the point having a 24/7 bus lane on the North Strand if there isn't even going to be a bus stop on it...

DCC announced last week the permanent removal of 7x bus stops along the C2CC route including the 2 main bus stops in the heart of North Strand (617 and 4384). This was not in the planning approval and even a document issued by DCC in March 2022 included all current bus stops.

They haven't provided any justification for this, although I see on the link below, they have updated to say it is based providing a bus stop within 3-5minutes walk of residents in the catchment. This is not true as a significant portion of North Strand residents will now be 6-7minutes walk. That doesn't consider the elderly or other mobility challenged members of the community who will have to trudge to the top of the hill, over the canal and halfway to the Five Lamps to catch a bus to Talbot Street. More like a 10-12minute walk.

No they are still there. Not sure when exactly they 'plan' to remove.

Looks like the balls-up has yet to happen. Schools back a week now and no real traffic difficulties in the North Strand and Ballybough area in the mornings anyway. If anything the traffic is moving better than it used to. It seems people have taken heed and are either avoiding the area, avoiding rush hour or using alternative means of transport. Works seem to be progressing nicely all along the route.

Not sure what you deem good, there were fairly long tail backs on Richmond road and Ballybough moved very slowly. There were never any issues in them places before the works.

Cars abusing the yellow box there is nothing new.

Ballybough always moves slowly. I generally avoided it long before the works ever started.

Fairview and Marino are absolutely mental this morning. It’s been a long time since I’ve seen phillipsbourgh Avenue, Brian road or Griffith avenue this busy. It’s been at a near stand still this morning. Truly amazing the aversion Irish people have to a bit of rain.

I live in the area and am completely okay with the intention of the bus/bike lane, love the plans....

but....

the temporary one way system is the wrong way, Coming inbound currently, you get to Hillbillys, and have to cross the outbound lane to get towards Ballybough, so outbound is stopped. If outbound is flowing, then inbound is stopped. At any moment there, only the outbound OR inbound lane can operate, so both directions are at 50% capacity. If the outbound had been directed to Ballybough, and the inbound as the one way, you would double the inflow (bar the 10-15% of time you need for the crosswalk).

Then you've the same prblem cars who have gone through Ballybough, having to cross back over the inbound lane getting towards Amiens Street. I've no idea why they redirected it that way

If 40% of people cycled or walked for their peak hour trips and 40% took public transport there'd be no congestion. As long as the infrastructure exists for people to walk cycle and take PT quickly and safely, it doesn't really bother me personally if people choose to queue up in cars for long periods of time. Shame about the kids who have asthma and have to breath in the fumes but I guess health isn't much of a consideration in policy these days.

I generally don't cycle in weather like we have today. But equally, I won't get in the car, as I couldn't handle the increased traffic. I'd take the bus or train.

But I have bulky tools and equipment to move today. So I'll try and time a gap where it's not raining, and go on the cargo bike.

We just need more people to embrace not driving. And it's not all or nothing, like a lot of the anti cycling brigade seem to think it is.