FF/FG/Green Government - Part 3 - Threadbanned User List in OP

The data may have been updated in March but it relates to a period that ended in 2018. There's been a general election and new government since.

While it may not warrant a thread of its own it's certainly not relevant to this thread.

But but but there is a graph that says there is no housing DISASTER and rent is affordable for our young people....and and our health service is superb with the trolley crisis resolved and almost no waiting list for a delayed diagnosis and a great new children's hospital built so efficiently ...and and the cronyism and corruption that FG promised to resolve in 2011 has been completely fixed with the standards in public office bill of 2015 passing into legislation without a problem.....oh wait.

We have some plans though...high level ones. Failing or destined to fail.

And we did really well on the national debt per capita index to achieve this utopia....watch that space.

The HSE is an independent agency, not part of the Department.

This is basic stuff.

"The role of the department and departmental team is to support the minister and the democratic process by:

• Formulating policy underpinned by an evidence-based approach and providing direction on national health priorities ensuring that quality and value for money are enhanced through the implementation of an evidence-based approach underpinned by monitoring and evaluation.
• Protecting the interests of patients and consumers and supporting practitioners and professionals to practice to the highest standards by providing a prudent and appropriate regulatory framework.
• Providing effective stewardship over health resources by demanding accountability for achieving outcomes including financial, managerial and clinical accountability, and by providing the frameworks, including enhanced service planning at national level to improve the overall governance of the health system.
• Fulfilling the state's obligations in relation to the EU, WHO, Council of Europe and other international bodies and the continued implementation of the co-operation agenda decided by the North-South Ministerial Council."

The Department's role is policy, the HSE is charged with implementation. So, if there was a policy decision not to pay a pandemic bonus, the Minister and the Department would be the target of your criticism, but if there has been a failure to pay the bonus on time, that is the operational responsibility of the HSE and they and Paul Reid should be the target of your criticism.

You are obviously too young to have read and watched Yes Minister and Yes, Prime Minister, if you are attributing success and failure solely to Ministers.

To answer, your point, a poster was complaining about nurses not having been paid their pandemic bonus. That is 100% on the HSE or whatever implementation agency was doing it. They are to blame, not the Minister.

However, if you think nurses should not have got a pandemic bonus, then you would be correct to blame the Minister, as that was the policy decision. What is happening a lot is that the government are getting things right policy wise on a lot of issues, so the usual whingers and moaners can't criticise them for those, so they are focussing on the implementation issues which are not the Minister's responsibility.

I mean, is there a single opposition poster on here willing to say that the nurses should not have got a pandemic bonus?

Do you think the nurses should have got a pandemic bonus?

5th September press release

INMO Calls for Nurses’ and Midwives’ Health, Wellbeing and Safety to be Budget 2023 Priority

“Since the Dáil broke up for its summer recess, 11,275 people have been without a bed in Irish hospitals. Unless there is meaningful action on staffing, bed capacity and using the capacity of private hospitals, we are in for an extremely bleak winter. The Minister for Health must prioritise the publication and actioning of a fully funded winter capacity plan in tandem with Budget 2023.  

“We also need to urgently fund and implement the Framework for Safe Staffing across acute hospitals, emergency departments, community and care of older persons. Delays to this implementation have a direct impact on how quickly and how well patients recover from illness, and how safe our members are at work. It needs to be funded, implemented and legislated for as a matter of urgency. 

“A priority in this budget needs to be recruitment and retention. We simply can’t afford to let things get worse for nurses and midwives.  

There isn’t an endless supply of people who are willing to work in Irish hospitals, particularly in unsafe conditions.

Do you think action on staffing and bed capacity should take precedence over the tripling of the pandemic payment?