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New 2021 Assistant Principal in the Civil Service

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭Anna1976


    I had my interview last Thursday and my experience was similar to you, they didn't let me finish any question in full, just kept coming with more questions, it was full on and off putting at times. Really didn't feel like I hit the mark enough to pass. Definately a big jump up from HEO interview in my opinion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Curranjo


    thats what im worried about too. I had great answers for their questions but wasnt giving enough time to get my points across so feel like i may be marked down



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 competition


    Just wondering What kind of differences are in the AP interview compared to HEO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 JD92


    Is it too optimistic to expect final interview results by the 9th (next Friday)? The batch before seemed to get results pretty quick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Curranjo


    im expecting them this week. Had my interview on 23rd and the panel had interviews to 24th. As the interviews started on 8th August, i thought last week would have been the last of the interviews and as you say, previous batches got their results quickly enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭parisee88


    When do we anticipate the next AP comp will take place or will they stick to the usual every two years? They seem to be flying through this panel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Curranjo


    public jobs is unavailable until Sunday so no results today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 418 ✭✭:Keith:


    Although PAS putting them up and nobody being able to see the outcome until Sunday night would take the usual torturous wait to a whole new level!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 Laggy67


    Lads this is torture, nearly 5 weeks waiting on these interview results



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Curranjo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭Kenrach


    That's crazy our results were out in 2 weeks from interview. It's probably already been done but have you emailed PAS to ask when you might get them ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 154 ✭✭plasticheart


    Had my interview today. Board were lovely but found it v tough. At the end the chair said interviews were going on for another 2 weeks so expect results in around 3 weeks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 418 ✭✭:Keith:


    Results just out there. Happy to have made the panel! Congrats to all that paneled and commiserations to those that didn't this time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 Luckyboy13


    Yes results out .Happy to have made the panel.Does anyone know how are called or will be called from this panel ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 Laggy67


    The agony is over, happy to be successful, to those who didn't this time, keep at it



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 kknative


    Congratulations to those who got through.

    I did my interview today also, and oh my goodness, that was tough.

    Blanked a couple of times, so wont be holding my breath.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 AGER


    Hi All - I am looking for some advice. I just got notice I made the AP panel; glad to have done so but placed early 70s on the order of merit on the open panel, which seems quite high (low?) to me. I am an external candidate (public sector, not civil service) so not on interdepartmental panel.

    I think this competition expires June / July next year which is a good few months away. Does anyone know what are my chances of being offered a job and if so when?

    Any advice welcome.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Curranjo


    Didn’t pass and missed out by 4 points. Does anyone know how to appeal the decision or is there any point?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Tony29


    Sorry to hear you were so close

    What is the pass mark for each competency

    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Curranjo


    24 and got 20 points



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 Chip22


    Received the strategic exercise and interview results today, delighted to have made the panel. Commiserations to those unsuccessful this time round and best of luck to those still in the running. Waiting game now for clearance and hopefully appointment in the near future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭Anna1976


    I was succesful too. Has everyone from the previous batch been placed or are there still more to be placed?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭Anna1976


    I don't know much about the open panel tbh, but it would seem this AP competition and panels are moving very fast so I would think you have every reason to be hopeful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 154 ✭✭plasticheart




    The panels will expire 31 July 2023. If you're on a Dublin panel I would think you've an excellent chance of getting it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 legaleagledealer


    I an external to the civil service. I made the panel with oom mid teens. Iam totally new to this game. Could someone tell me my chances. Also as an external candidate who decides which dept you are assigned to if offered a position. Is it random? It is the Dublin panel.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 Luckyboy13


    Commiserations to the people who did not get through this time but do not give up .Keep going and it will happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭Kenrach


    Congratulations to everyone who got through amd commiserations to those who didn't. I am.servimg AP having.gone through the process in April of this year. The panel moved very quickly in our batch and PAS keep you informed throughout. For external candidates I understand garda clearance isn't taking long at.all. for serving civil servants, being retained by your dept will depend on no. Of vacancies. I signalled to PAS of referred location area due to commute reasons and they were able to accommodate this at the time (no guarantee).

    For now enjoy the celebrations 🍾



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 mat_s2020


    I'm delighted to have made the panel in batch 3 and have placed well. Could anyone give me an idea of the current batch and OOM being used to make appointments, and also how many in a batch (assuming it's the same number in each)?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 AGER


    Good to hear Kenrach - can I ask did you give a preferred department or just location? I know they will never guarantee anything but there are a couple of depts. I would prefer given my background. Also would prefer city centre location (Dublin) for commute reasons too; I presume most depts are city centre based with some area offices in suburbs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭Kenrach


    It was location due to commute. I would share your dept. preference based on your skillset and location however you will receive the standard answer that they cannot guarantee they can accommodate your request which is fair enough. Best to make it known now and I sent this to the AP clearance email.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 Luckyboy13


    Can I ask did you send your preference when you were on the panel or when you were offered the position



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,134 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    The way recruitment is going right now (well, before the summer quiet period), I would be very confident that you will be called.

    Almost guaranteed to be called, IMO.

    PAS will decide what department/organisation you are assigned to. When they reach your place in the open panel, you go to the next employer in the queue. So effectively random.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 JD92


    Happy to have made the panel, commiserations to those that missed out (it was a case of try and try again for me so don’t give up). I placed mid 20s in Dublin (Inter-D) but I’m also number 2 on my regional panel (Offaly) and was wondering if anyone from previous batches has any info on whether the regional panels have moved at all or if you just get your OOM for each of the regions you applied but only the Dublin panel is actually moving?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Jijj22


    Thanks so much for all the info throughout this competition. I’ve found it soo helpful. I am in the current batch being interviewed. Just wondering what is the end date for interviews this batch? Has anyone got a date late Sept?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 Luckyboy13


    Can I ask please when you made you preferred location known to PAS .Was it while you were still on the panel before offer or when they offered you a position.

    Thank you



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 314 ✭✭Mac-Chops


    SAE report and presentation gone in for interview next week.

    Over a year in to the process now, it seems silly to at least not give it a go at this stage but can't say the appetite is huge.

    In that time, I've also already made the jump from private sector to public sector Local Government and all going well so far.

    Would be interested to hear from anyone similar and recently appointed if they're happy with the move or too busy to reply on here any more!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭Kenrach


    I emailed the AP clearance shortly after I received results. I was in the top 10 so figured I wouldn't be waiting too long on offer and I was right as I was contacted to formally start clearance process 10 days after receiving results.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 Luckyboy13


    I emailed the AP clearance shortly after I received results. I was in the top 10 so figured I wouldn't be waiting too long on offer and I was right as I was contacted to formally start clearance process 10 days after receiving results.

    Thank you

    Would you have the email address you sent the information too please .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭Kenrach


    It's the AP clearance email - PAS wpuld have given you the address when you were notified of results ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭Anna1976


    If you have received your oom for Offaly I would take that as a good sign, I haven't received any placing for my other choice of County.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭Kenrach


    I took AP in Dublin, my preference would be the county I live in however PAS advised me that they had no requests to fill vacancies so they didn't call forward candidates who had this county listed. So I didn't receive the Oom for my preferred county at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 legally_binding


    Hi Kenrach, how do you find the commute ? And the office culture? Are you required to be in the office a set number of days from week - what is the WFH policy ? Currently in a job that is quite flexible but have made the AP panel so keen to understand the cultural change I'd experience! Thank you



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭Kenrach


    Congratulations on making the panel. I was commuting for a number of years to Dublin pre pandemic. Im serving civil servant with experience across a couple of depts through previous promotion so I didn't experience culture shock as such. The dept. I'm in now is 2 days per week, the wfh hasn't officially launched for applications yet and when it does that's what I'll be applying for. I'm happy with the dept., and the role. I suppose the flexibility will depend on where you get really and I'm sure you'll be happy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 AGER


    Does anyone know what State agencies draw down from this AP panel (apart from the obvious central govt. depts) . For example does the Revenue Commissioners or Garda Civilian?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭Anna1976


    Yes both Revenue and Garda civilian pull from this panel.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Hi everyone,

    Hoping for some insider information. I'm hoping to apply for the next AP com that opens.

    I'm a serving AO and so was successful on an external comp about 5 years ago. I bought a practice package with Jobtestprep, a UK company, to work on the verbal, numerical, etc.

    I've been a bit shocked at the difficulty on the tests on this package. Maybe things have changed in the 5 years since I did them last, but the AO ones were not this hard!

    Could anyone who did both competitions give any insight as to whether the AP tests are actually this much harder? Or perhaps the package I bought is overdoing it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 AGER


    I only did the AP competition but can confirm the practice Jobtestprep questions are about similar difficulty level to the real test. In fact I found the actual maths test even more difficult (I ended up guessing the last 5 questions due to time constraints). That said I passed them all with an above average score and did best in the maths (it was the job simulation I scored least) . Fair play to you for starting now - keep practicing and they get easier and with a bit of luck on the day you will nail it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭Anna1976


    Could anyone who has been appointed in the last week or two please give us an update on which batch is currently being appointed. Just wondering if they have started clearance for anyone from batch 3 yet?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 sellotape47


    I'm in batch 3 and started clearance process about 2 weeks ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 mat_s2020


    @Anna1976 I believe that batch 3 is now the current panel. I don't know if anyone has been appointed from it yet though. I'd also be interested to hear of any offers being made to those on B3.



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